Talk:John Dwight (manufacturer)

John Dwight (manufacturer) was one of the Agriculture, food and drink good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
October 4, 2020	Good article nominee	Listed
February 26, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 21, 2017.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Austin Church and John Dwight were the first to commercially manufacture baking soda in the United States, and the former was first to use the Arm & Hammer trademark logo (pictured) for selling it?

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:John Dwight (manufacturer)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Eddie891 (talk · contribs) 01:20, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I intend to review this shortly. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 01:20, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"Nathaniel's father, Dwight's great grandfather, was Captain Timothy Dwight" I think this connection is too much of a stretch to have here, for a non-notable individual

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:21, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"He was in the same class with " -> "same class as"

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:21, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"In 1847 he went into partnership" perhaps "in 1847 the two entered into a partnership" or "the two began a partnership" or smth similar

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:44, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Church was the one that concocted the formula to be the first in the United States to devise a method of manufacturing the product as a company item to sell" perhaps "Church was the first in the United States to devise a method of manufacturing sodium bicarbonate as an item that could be sold" or something similar?

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:54, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

" first under the Cow Brand trademark" what value does 'first' add here?

Done - removed.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:48, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"They packaged the product this way for hygiene and personally filled the bags themselves" who is 'they'? 'themselves' seems redundant here

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:58, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Arm & Hammer baking soda dominated" at what point did they 'dominate' the market?

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:43, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Cow brand was preferred " -> "Cow Brand was preferred "

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:43, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"as well like as a" seems off to me.

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:43, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Church & Dwight Company corporation" link Church & Dwight?

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:43, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"The spot is where Dwight was born" what is the spot?

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:43, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's a first pass, there will likely be more subjective comments. As always, open to discussion. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:43, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Eddie891: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:43, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Images are good.
No copyvio
Sourcing looks good
- I don't see Dwight and Church sold the powder product in red paper bags under the Cow Brand trademark. in provided source

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:18, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- Page for citation #7 may be off, I don't see anything there

Done - replaced Jorgensen reference. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:34, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- In citation #1, I don't see that WIlliam White was 'of Springfield, Mass'

Done - changed to an officer in the Continental Army. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:50, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- I think you could just list the names of his children. What they did isn't really relevant. If you decide keep it essentially as is, I suggest 1) removing 'Mrs.' from the names of the women, and not say 'became' so much, rephrasing to avoid repetition of that word

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- Sources 4 and 16 are the same

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Doug Coldwell Some more. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 19:01, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Eddie891: All additional issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good. Meets the ga criteria, passing. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:23, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment

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