Talk:John Coltrane discography
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[edit]Nice work. Now let's get this cleaned up, and filled out! -Maggie --70.48.205.156 00:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
The "As Sideman" and "As Co-Leader" sections are confusing, because a lot of the albums Coltrane recorded during the 1950's were "Prestige All-Star" albums, often under the leadership of Mal Waldron, but more collaborative efforts than anything else. Coltrane was only a sideman - in terms of actually being in the band - for Dizzy, Earl Bostic, Gay Crosse, Miles, Johnny Hodges and Monk - and maybe Cecil Taylor. I suggest only these albums be listed under "As Sidemen," and we scrap the "Co-Leader" section , integrate those albums into the main section, and indicate for each album that top billing is shared and with whom.
Also - since the title of this article is "John Coltrane Discography" and not "Complete John Coltrane Discography" - should we include titles like "Like Sonny" which merely reproduce material available on more famous albums? We should be as complete as possible, but if we include every rerelaase in a new form, the discography may become unwieldy and unhelpful.
Editor437 17:19, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Ok, so I put the leader and co-leader sections together -- basically putting all the Prestige stuff under "Leader or Co-Leader." Looks smoother to me -- any thoughts?
Editor437 06:35, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Bootlegs
[edit]Just curious, why no boots? There is an article on bootleg recording, so why not be thorough and list them? Where is the policy? I don't want to begin a debate over something where there is probably already a consensus, but just curious. Thanks, Editor437 (talk) 19:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Vandal attacking this page
[edit]These are all the same vandalous user: 122.3.11.211: talk 119.94.0.238: talk 96.247.37.46: talk 119.94.12.16: talk 119.94.3.120: talk 58.69.106.184: talk
I revert her/his edits automatically -- This is clear vandalism (see her/his other "contributions" - she is only doing this to "get back at me")Editor437 (talk) 13:21, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Confusing Organization
[edit]It's not very clear whether these releases are organized chronologically by release or session within the categorization of Label. Perhaps a sortable table would be prudent? If someone prefers to do this, fine, if not I am happy to. Opposition? Joshuah Hounshell (talk) 16:58, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Discography Revision
[edit]I am working on an overhaul of the discography page. I should be done in the next several days. Infamous30 (talk) 10:54, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
- I have almost finished the revision. It will be uploaded in the next two or three days. Infamous30 (talk) 07:10, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- I have uploaded the revision. All items in the discography are either sourced through separate Wikipedia pages or researched materials. Other unconfirmed releases have been removed. Over the next few days I will continue to add citations to the introduction as well as additional compilations I found after my initial work. Infamous30 (talk) 12:55, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- I have almost finished the revision. It will be uploaded in the next two or three days. Infamous30 (talk) 07:10, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Missing Album
[edit]The DAKAR album recorded 4/20/57 John Coltrane, Cecil Payne, Pepper Adams, Mal Waldron, Doug Watkins and Art Taylor For Prestige 75.53.211.250 (talk) 21:22, 15 June 2013 (UTC)Nyal, June 15, 2013. Ref. The CD back cover.
- Dakar is a reissue of Baritones and French Horns, which is already included under the Other appearances section of the discography. It was re-released under John Coltrane's name after he left Prestige Records. Infamous30 (talk) 23:49, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
I also have a CD in my collection, presumably published in the '80s, and possibly a bootleg or unapproved, that is not listed in the discography. For what it's worth... Title: Coltrane (well produced in white script on blue background) (all following below a small picture of J.C. and in all capital letters) John Coltrane Quartet Live at the Half Note John Coltrane:Saxophone, McCoy Tyner:Piano Jimmy Garrison:Bass and Elvin Jones:Drums February 23, 1963 (Back of case) John Coltrane Quartet Live at the Half Note / Recorded February 23, 1963 / I WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOU [10:48] / [BILLY ECKSTINE/RIGHTSONG MUSIC - BMI] / BRAZILIA [19:20] / [JOHN COLTRANE/JOWCOL MUSIC, INC. - BMI] / SONG OF PRAISE [19:15] / [JOHN COLTRANE/JOWCOL MUSIC, INC. - BMI] / ONE UP, ONE DOWN [7:20] / JOHN COLTRANE/JOWCOL MUSIC, INC. - BMI] / BLACK LABEL (logo) JAZZ SERIES COMPACT disc Digital Audio (logo) / Black Label, Inc. MADE IN CANADA / P.O. Box 2218 / Collegedale, TN 37315 / (Insert) (A single page background story of J.C. and the author's opinion of where this recording fits into J.C.'s development. Apparently written in the '80s - author: Hollie I. West) --- I bought it because I had heard J.C. perform a solo, all evening affair, at the Half Note (without band accompaniment) about two months earlier (over the Christmas/New Year period) which was an astounding (1960's meaning of that word) performance of improvisation. Apparently, no recordings of those solo evenings were made, and no CD yet released of his other performances has come close. 24.94.31.76 (talk) 05:28, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
France 1965
[edit]Would anyone object if I added Live in Paris and Live in Antibes to the discography, then expanded the two articles a bit, adding citations and reviewer comments, etc.? They seem like legitimate releases. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helen Puffer Thwait (talk • contribs) 00:14, 20 July 2020 (UTC)