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Social organisation template problem

This is the data, but the template used omits the offspring. Anyone capable of fixing this?

Cycle A (Phratry)	Wife	Husband	Offspring
Chungalee	Chimitcha)	Taralee
Chula	Chuna	Tanagree
Taralee	Chemara	Chula
Tungaree	Champina	Chingaree
Cycle B (Phratry)	Wife	Husband	Offspring
Chimitcha	Chungalee	Champina
Chuna	Chula	Chemara
Champina	Tangaree	Chuna
Chimara	Taralee	Chimitcha

Nishidani (talk) 11:19, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Divisions of the Jingili tribe^[1]
Phratry	Section of Parents		Section of Offspring
Phratry	Wife	Husband	Offspring
Cycle A	Chungalee Chula Taralee Tungaree	Chimitcha Chuna Chemara Champina	Taralee Tanagree Chula Chingaree
Cycle B	Chimicha Chuna Champina Chimara	Chungalee Chula Tangaree Taralee	Champina Chemara Chuna Chimitcha

Nishidani, This (above) might be what you want. It is a bit hard to tell. Cheers · · · Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 19:44, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

On the other hand, this (below) is what is in the reference cited (Matthews 1900):

Divisions of the Jingili tribe^[2]
Phratry	Section of Parents		Section of Offspring
Phratry	Husband	Wife	Son	Daughter
A	Jimmitcha Chunainjah Chemarainjah Tampachina	Nungalleeinja Nalainjah Naraleeinjah Nungareeinjah	Taraleeinjah Tungareeinjah Chulainjah Chungaleeinjah	Naraleeinjah Nungareeinjah Nalainjah Nungalleeinja
B	Chungaleeinjah Chulainjah Tungareeinjah Taraleeinjah	Nameeinjah Nanainjah Nabajinah Nemarainjah	Tampachina Chemarainjah Chunainjah Jimmitcha	Nabajinah Nemarainjah Nanainjah Nameeinjah

Social organisation data quality

There's clearly some inconsistencies in the data as shown in the article right now. Specifically, these Offspring sections don't appear (in any spelling) in those of their parents:

Tanagree
Chingaree

Was there a typo in the source(s)?

Also, as Mathews used a fairly consistent orthography later on, in which vowels took "Italian" values, my guess is that these two sections ought to be:

Tungaree
Chungalee

respectively. yoyo (talk) 05:35, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, what do we know of Mathews' informants for this data? Since his many field researches were in south-eastern Australia, and he relied on many correspondents e.g. Strehlow for data on Aboriginal groups further from home, do the sources (1900 and 1908) - or perhaps any of his notebooks - name his informants? yoyo (talk) 05:52, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

^ ^a ^b Mathews 1908a, p. 101.
^ Mathews 1900, p. 495.

[FOOTNOTEMathews1908a101-1] Mathews 1908a, p. 101.

[FOOTNOTEMathews1900495-2] Mathews 1900, p. 495.

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