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Edmund Darris?

I've been reading a lot of articles on various rock musicians, and many of them mention a guy named Edmund Darris. He even has his own article, that IMO looks like a very colorful attempt at self-promoting. I googled him and ended up finding just a couple of movies. There were basically no source material to verify that he has, for instance, met Albert King, played guitar at Eric Clapton's birthday party or being taught secret guitar tunings by Hendrix as the wiki articles claim.

Could anyone please tell me who this guy is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.164.132.123 (talk) 15:00, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Anything related to this edit has been nominated for deletion as patent hoax nonsense. The text in this article can be removed as well. 156.34.142.110 (talk) 16:54, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Jimi was actually right handed?

I noticed the Jimi Hendrix article states Jimi was left handed. Actually he was right handed and merely played guitar left handed. He could also play guitar right handed. He wrote with his right hand. Not sure why the left handed myth persists, I suppose he did teach himself to play left handed. One source I have is the online Hendrix magazine. There are also photos of him writing with his right hand. This needs research don't want to keep expanding on an urban myth in wikipdia. Thanks. http://www.jimi-hendrix.com/magazine/603/603,features,fireredmoon.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.225.30.142 (talk) 20:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes jimi hendrix was in fact right handed. The reason he plays left handed is because his father did not approve of right handed playing. I know this from his biography. Blackties30 (talk) 23:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

First Guitar God?

It states in the Legacy section that "although the term was not used when Hendrix was playing, he likely qualifies as the first 'guitar god' of rock music". Surely this would correctly apply to Eric Clapton? 'Clapton is God' was wrote on the wall of Islington Underground station in mid 1967, Hendrix was only just famous at this point? I won't deny that I am a fan of Clapton's, so I could be being biased on this, but it just seems to make more sense to me. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? CDicken 20:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Eric Clapton? You're actually tarnishing this talk article with that wannabe?--Asams10 20:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

WANNABE? Eric clapton is far more technichally skilled that Hendrix, try playing the crossroads solo, its 5 times harder than anything Hendrix ever played. And btw who used the wah wah before Hendrix? Clapton! He used it on Tales of Brave Ulysses which was recorded long before Hendrix used it. Also Hendrix didn't come up with feedback, Lennon did. Clapton is a better guitarist, he just plays guitar plain and simple unlike the act that Hendrix put on which was completely stolen from the Who. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.27.139.43 (talk) 02:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Eric's ability is irrelevant, that is a matter of opinion. I just want to establish who was considered a 'Guitar God' first. I knew my opinion could be biased in Eric's favour, that's why I mentioned it in the original post. I am trying to keep my opinions unbiased and it shouldn't be difficult for Hendrix fans to do the same. They were both fantastic guitarists in their own way, with lots of fans. Even Hendrix was a fan of Clapton's, and vice versa. Hendrix came to England on the condition he got to meet Clapton, they then remained friends for the rest of Hendrix's life. If they can acknowledge each others talent, why can't you? If you have issues with Clapton, take it to to some forum elsewhere, Wikipedia is a place for fact, not opinion. CDicken 23:35, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

LOL, if you have issues with HENDRIX, take them elsewhere. Why even mention Clapton here? You're a Clapton fan trying to crap on the Hendrix article. Clapton wasn't even in the same class let alone anywhere near as innovative. Gods? That's so irrelevant it's absurd.--Asams10 23:01, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I have no issues with Hendrix, I think he is a brilliant guitarist. I am not trying to 'crap' on his article at all. I said in my last post that they were both 'fantastic guitarists in their own way' then I made the point that if 'they can acknowledge each others talent, why can't you?' You called Clapton a 'wannabe', I have complemented Hendrix on his ability, how does that sound like a person with issues against Hendrix? I haven't said anything that could imply I don't like Hendrix, or I don't think hes very talented or anything like that, all I said was that I considered that small part of the article to be incorrect. Thats not having an issue it's just trying to keep facts correct.

I haven't said anything detrimental about Hendrix at all. My original post said 'I won't deny that I am a fan of Clapton's, so I could be being biased on this', I am obviously being fair to fans of Hendrix by saying that. I'm not putting down Hendrix or saying Clapton is better or anything like that. If I did have an issue with Hendrix I would just go ahead and change it, or delete his page and replace it with some obscene message like a lot of other people do. I don't have an issue, thats why I came to the discussion page, to discuss it with other people.CDicken 0:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

CDicken raises an interesting point. I'm pretty sure graffiti of 'Clapton is God' predates Hendrix's arrival in England and is well documented; therefore, it's entirely possible that Clapton was the first 'guitar god' of Rock music, albeit rather short-lived. Hendrix was actually referred to as King Guitar shortly after he arrived in England. -- Mickraus 11:55, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I removed the sentence per WP:BOLD. It is an example of the many unsourced, POV statements that this article is full of. So, instead of arguing about who is a better guitarist, or who we each think is a "God", or what we may of not have heard of, energy should be devoted to digging up verifiable sources that back up any such such statement.-- HJensen, talk 13:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Good idea. -- Mickraus 14:19, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Of course if anyone should be considered the first guitar god, it should be Clapton. I mean, "Clapton is God" was on the walls in '66, predating Are You Experienced by about a year. It doesn't really get much more explicit than that. :P 18.245.6.171 (talk) 17:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Exactly, I'm glad that others can see my point. Clapton was considered God before Hendrix was widely famous. Some reports say it started even earlier than '66. On Eric Clapton's website it states he was first called God in April '65. Hendrix was still playing in NY night clubs at this time. It's possible that there were small groups that considered BB King, Robert Johnson, Freddie King, Django Reinhardt, etc to be 'God' even before this, but Clapton was definitely considered to be god before Hendrix. CDicken 4:13, 23 November 2007(UTC)

JIMI HENDRIX IS MY GOD! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.189.17.172 (talk) 01:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

lmao arguing over who was 'considered god' first —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 20:47, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

ok guys, arguing over who was the first "god" is pointless, neither one of you can prove that either guy was the first god. its all opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.55.144.8 (talk) 03:07, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

There is one God and nobody on this earth is him.LifeStroke420 (talk) 04:17, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

This is just a load of trivial, degrading puff by people that have no serious understanding of Hendrix as the massive musical, cultural, political, fashion, innovater/mover89.241.204.118 (talk) 00:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC) (ARTIST), that he eventually became, and his understanding of how his image had been co-opted by some people he had never even met ("The Movement" "The media" "Fans") All we have is what Jimi said himself, and contemporary witness, anything else is opinion/gossip. Don't forget Jimi was not a "University graduate" but was a high school dropout and instead (according to all the evidence) had an early awareness of his calling as an artist and musician from a relatively early age. He saw what happened when you rocked the boat in USA - Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King. Jimi always made a point of commenting on the plight of the American Natives, who he indentified with through his family's heritage, even at a quite early age, drawing a picture that is remarkabely similar to contemporary Native artwork, depicting an attack by federal troops on a native encampement and then sharing the fate of Custer at little bighorn, as they are ambushed by the natives. He wrote 'I don't live today' as a comment on the Natives plight. He espoused support for Martin Luther King as have several family members, but Jimi then went on to profess (occasionally limited) support for the Black Panthers from virtually as soon as he became an (in the USA strictly commercial) interviewable subject in 67 until shortly before his demise in september 70. ---- I really don't have the time to research for you, but if you want to contest this or any of my attempts to enlighten you as to this disgraceful, trivial treatment of one of the most internationally recognized profound and remarkable MUSICIANS and COMMENTATORS to stuggle through the systematic abuse of human rights that is the USA. He had to become popular/famous in (almost immediately) Europe (where he featured regularly on radio TV & press), Australia, New Zealand, Japan etc. prior to his massive popularity in later 1968 in the USA, due mainly to word of mouth, a little positive press following Monterey and nation wide touring with press & radio advertising, getting virtually no radio and no TV exposure. So before printing some degrading, trivial nonsense about "non political" "Elvis, bowler hats, dashikis", etc. etc. etc. How about a discussion first, here, now, with me, bring credible proof of relevance, not gossip.Jameselmo (talk) 12:33, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

hand size

while hendrix probably did have huge hands, it does not take large hands to fret across all six strings with your thumb. i have small hands and can easily do it, so someone should go ahead and remove that particular sentence.

I was going to make a comment, but then I'm not from the land of giants. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jameselmo (talk • contribs) 00:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It probably meant not his whole thumb, but rather the top part.

Original name

It is worth noting that Jimi's surname was not originally spelt "Hendrix"; his birth name was "Hendricks" which was changed at a later date. LynkStar 10:15, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Can you provide evidence of this assertion? -- Mickraus 12:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, i'm reading the biography of Jimi Hendrix, Room Full of Mirrors, according to that published book, yes, it is correct, however this was never jimi's name. Thatb was the family alst name until 1912... they changed it so jimi was born a "Hendrix and never a "Hendricks" Im writing here because Jimi was NOT born James Marshall Hendrix. He was in Fact born Johnny Allen Hendrix. His Name was changed after his father returned from his military service was complete. He legally Changed Jimi's name to James after his own first name and his middle name Marshall after the middle name of Jimi's deceased uncle, Leon. You can check my information by getting a copy of Room Full of Mirrors by Charles R. Cross. Its a good book. It says that Al Hendrix believed Jimi was named after an affair his wife had while he was still in the military. Thats the reason his name was changed. Anyways, can someone change the information for his birth name? Im new, i just saw that and wanted to fix it. ---Patullo23 13:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd inserted that fact in January this year and I see that someone has removed it. I'll have to find out why. I discussed this in the talk section Jimi's Original Name --Mickraus 14:15, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I've just noticed it's been placed in the Biography section, so it's still there. --Mickraus 14:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I've read in rolling stones and other websites that he's the third as in James Marshall Hendrix III. I don't know if this is true, will someone verify or disprove. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.8.11 (talk) 02:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, it should be known, when first began touring england, he was touring as Jimmy Hendrix, it was later changed by his manager to Jimi. k8cpa 00:59, 16 November 2007

See this is still being changed on a regular basis. Can't we take it that Charles R Cross' book (see above) is correct and stop changing his name back and forward--Egghead06 (talk) 16:28, 19 November 2007 (UTC)?

I read that biography too, and it said his ancestors' names were Hendricks, and it was changed to Hendrix long before Jimi's time, or even his parents. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.215.168 (talk) 22:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Decreasing article length

Since it has been a great problem, I was thinking that instead of cutting out his early life (this is a biography article and it should include all personal details), that we instead take all the information on who controls the release of his albums and the future releases and place them in the discography section. Any thoughts? 75pickup (talk · contribs)

Support definatly this article is way to big (and anyway I hope that nobody cuts out his early life part I mean it is his biography.--Seadog.M.S 12:11, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Object The story of Hendrix's posthumous legacy is probably more important than the prehumous details of his life. This article is long because of the scope and complexity of the Hendrix story, not because contributors here think he's that 'great' or 'worthy' of such a long article. --Zig 18:35, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Comment Make his early life into a new article? Adam Wang 01:17, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Comment I've passed a few FAs recently, and though you may see some objections for length, they'll be overruled if your article meets the comprehensiveness requirement. I'm not necessarily arguing to keep the article as it is, as I haven't read it yet. But just some advice -- you don't have to conform to any arbitrary kilobyte limits. Let the article define itself, and be tasteful when avoiding trivia or excessive details. I honestly wish I had time to make this featured... --Zeality 19:43, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Comment Too many editors have been swooping in and carelessly doing 'chop jobs' on this article. They combine sentences into run-ons, remove pertinant details, leave fragemented paragraphs, and disrupt the TOC, all in the name of shortening the article length. Even at it's fattest, the article content consistently remained focused on Hendrix himself, or on items that have affected his life, music, or legacy. When I conceded to the 'conservatives' by migrating large swaths of information to separate articles, those articles were summarily deleted from Wikipedia. Needless to say this has been very frustrating. I'm very tempted at this point to leave Wikipedia forever and GFDL all of the Hendrix content into my own personal website as a static page or a separate 'Jimipedia' site. I'd like to stay and avoid such divergence, but another month or so without compromise or administrative input will likely be the tipping point. --Zig 16:37, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Just keep on trucking. If you can manage to get this featured, no one will touch it. Of course, people will object to length on the featured article candidacy, but Raul will pass it regardless of how many length objections there are if the information is relevant to Hendrix. Byzantine Empire is 121 kb and some Indian / Bangladesh topic is 111 kb. The Bangladesh one was objected to several times, yet Raul passed it for meeting the comprehensive requirement. People obsessed with length should review featured article criteria. --Zeality 19:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Object It's a good article, and none of the content should be cut. Bifgis 06:34, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Stuff I put about Hendrix's infamous and historical concerts at SF's Winterland Ballroom have been striken from the article. I had not visited in a few months and just discovered this. For example, the article now implies that he opened with Killing Floor for a long time. Not true. He opened with Sgt. Peppers for most if not all of 1968. Oh well, I guess the owners got sick of all the editing and bickering and locked the door and took away the key. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamKent (talk • contribs) 14:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Public Domain Photo

There is apparently a collection in the library of congress from a Look magazine shoot that is free for use. There is no image available on the website but maybe you could order a copy or something. See here for more information. 75pickup (talk · contribs)

Guitar styles

Why is it that "funk" is not listed as one of Hendrix's styles? It's common knowledge that his rhythms were heavily funk and blues based. Listen to Purple Haze. The guitar rhythm for that song is almost exclusively a funk rhythm.

I think Rock/blues/funk would work fine.

What about Metal? If you read the first sentance, it describes Hendrix to a T. Ryan2x 19:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

You need cites from reliable sources to add anything like that. Personal opinion and judgement doesn't cut it. Anyway, I think he was more of an influence on the development of funk and metal than a practictioner of those styles. A major influence, in both cases, but still, an influence rather than an actual practitioner. (Metal, in particular, didn't really become estabished as a distinct genre until after Jimi's death.) Xtifr _tälk 23:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The simple fact that a funkk beat is present in his rythms does not make him a Funk musician. Funk is an overused term in Music. Listen to the Funky drummer by James Brown. That is funk. Funk simply means all the emphasis is on Beat One. I have no sources but Im also a Jazz musician at VCU.

The main rhythm section to Purple Haze is just E7/9, G, A. There's nothing "funk" about that song. Furthermore, when you say his "rhythms" were blues based... well, that's just not true. Most of his legitimate "blues" tracks didn't HAVE a rhythm. It was all lead.207.38.196.202 04:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC)AP

didn't have a rhythm guitar sure, but no rhythm ? surely Noel Redding's bass over Mitch Mitchell's drumming would count ? I'd certainly consider Hendrix a 'funk' musician. The intro to Voodoo Chile - Slight Return with that wah-wah pedal can surely be heard in both Issac Hayes' Shaft and a lot of Nile Rodgers (Chic) playing. Hendrix in no way had the whole 70's funk sound in his head - but I think he contributed to it for sure. Markmorgan10 17:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

And Band of Gypsys? Is this not funk? It seems to me all of Buddy Miles drumming is well within the criteria of funk, as is a plethora of the licks coming from Jimi's guitar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ROG 19 (talk • contribs) 20:07, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

No citations!

This article is extremely well-researched and accurate, I'm sure. So where are the citations? It's the only thing holding this article back. --Anon. 05:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I just read the article and find it to be poor by Wikipedia standards, considering how much attention it will have recieved. Some of the language used, like "He caught up with Linda Keith, an old flame that he still admired", is a bit romantic, and there were many instances of liberal portrait of Hendrix, as well as some instances where the chronology becomes confusing. See for example the Are You Experienced subsection, the article states that the album was released on May 12, 1967, apparently while Jimi doing a tour of Europe where he set his guitar on fire on March 31, 1967... The article reads like it was in excellent shape at some point but was then padded with uncited trivia by fans.

88.110.32.144 21:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

It's shamefully true -- It's hard to a believe a single sentence in this article. Honestly, about two-thirds of this stuff should probably be removed on the grounds that it discusses pretty personal/sensitive stuff such as Hendrix's thoughts and feelings(!) without even a shred of a citation, much less evidence. Ok! 22:31, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

As opposed to just deleting two thirds of the article right away, it would be best to see if we could find citations first. I see a list of Hendrix biographies, magazine articles, interviews, etc. in the References section, which I assume is where most of the information in this article comes from, so, I think we should use these sources to cite the article properly. Dumping a list of biographies just won't cut it as far as citations go. Having said that, I doubt many of us would be prepared to go through all the hassle of researching everything again, but we'll see.

On the other hand, the entire article does read like it's been copied entirely from a Hendrix website or book, due to the amount of weasel words and POV remarks. If this is true, most of the article is in violation of copyright. We'll just have to see how things go as far as citing the article goes though. But I suggest we immediately remove any additional information added into the article unless it is cited, this will make the whole the citing process much easier! ĤĶ51→^Łalk 22:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Here goes. I found a copy of Electric Gypsy at the library, and started filling in references for "Early Life". Sorry it is all the same source, but is better than before. Ok! 20:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Just to put this in context - the Pearl Jam article (which I'm much more familiar with) has 89 references, and this one has 14, so that's the scope of the referencing project. I think this article should be tagged as poorly referenced. Kristmace 22:44, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Biography section

I don't understand why the section called biography exists. I mean, all it's doing is summarizing jimi hendrix's life and his legacies. That stuff should be or is already mentioned in the lead section. Otherwise it should be distributed else where in the article. I think its unnessesary and should be deleted. After the lead section, the article should go right into the early life section. Justinmeister 21:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I totally agree with this, the stuff there at the start of the bio section is completely useless as it has all been mentioned previously in the article. I'm going to go ahead and remove it now, if anyone has any objections, you know what to do. HK51 22:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, why does it say he is "mistakenly" considered the greatest and most influential guitarist ever? I assume that's some wise-guy trying to be funny. This should be fixed. I think I'm going to fix this, too.Caregirl21789 07:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah its a shame someone would say that.

Jimi Hendrix's political views

"It has been equally difficult for biographers to discern Hendrix's political views because his opinions on social and political topics varied in step with the company that he kept. To a crowd of hippies, Hendrix would speak about social change and against the Vietnam War; in Europe, however, he would rant in disgust to his British friends about witnessing anti-war protesters riot in Paris."

This paragraph uses an example that supposedly highlights Hendrix's contradictory political views and chameolonic social nature. However, the two events relayed in the example are not inconsistent with each other. For example, let's say he was against the Vietnam War, and he also spoke against anti-war protesters rioting in Paris. Perhaps he was upset that people protesting against the war could not remain peaceful themselves. I think most would agree that resorting to violence (rioting) in protest of war is hypocritical. My opinion is that, at the very least, the example given to buttress the opening statement does not hold water. 70.152.108.15 16:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)JustaRandomPasserby

This entire statement is sufficiently problematic that I've tagged it with {{fact}} until someone can come up with some attribution or references. +ILike2BeAnonymous 18:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Many who have been in the military often have problems defining their true beliefs. They often become mixed or paradoxal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.178.17.117 (talk) 16:18, 12 January 2007 (UTC).

First of all, that's just your opinion, not concrete fact. Second, considering he was only in the Army for a year before getting kicked out, I highly doubt that short amount of time would have a profound effect on his political views. (BvonS 17:12, 19 April 2007 (UTC))

where is the proof that Jimi "ranted about anti war... paris etc.? Eric Burdon possibly? well known for talking complete bollocks about anything that comes to mind ie jimi's "suicide note" and "suicide" etc. etc. Also jimi never made his views on vietnam known in any interviews or otherwise. He did mention it in passing on stage (before playing wild thing), but never to profess support or otherwise directly. the only time he contributed to a directly anti vietnam war benefit was the one where he very crudely insulted a woman in the audience, played only one and a half songs very badly and then left the stage.

Then again as a contrast to much unfounded speculation about his Vietnam views, he consistently reffered to his Native American heritage and talked about their plight, well before it became fashionable, possibly bringing the subject to public notice and dedicated his song I don't live today to them on stage. Also let's not forget that Jimi also, as well voicing support for Martin Luther King, consistently from '67 to '70, spoke of his (qualified) support of the Black Panthers on stage and interviews, as friends The Allen twins also attest on film. The Panthers in 68 Seattle made a big impact (look it up!)89.241.204.118 (talk) 01:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jameselmo (talk • contribs) 23:18, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

the citation is to listen and read to his many recordings and interviews where he profess' these views, instead of quoting some ridiculous opinions by people who have made no effort to read and listen to "Their masters voice" and only listened to some of his recorded work on an extremely superficial level and repeating uncritically recieved nonsense.

Albert Hall Video?

I have a 40 minute video I got from torrents of the Experience at albert hall, is this the mentioned dvd not released (yeah 40 mins is short). It seems to have professional editing such as involving shots outside or maybe not relating to the concert (such as an airport). Also effects on the colour, like inverted etc.

Hendrix's Other Anthem? - Current Event!

UK news via Taipei Times says a dusty 8-track tape from an old tea chest in a recording studio yielded Hendrix playing the Welsh national anthem, Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau, or, Land of My Fathers. Apparently, Hendrix was in London at the time it was recorded, and the studio was recording his friend and their band. The rendition has been described as "ear-rattling" by a UK writer who added, "It does sound rather like him." Note: This is an original synopsis of the story.

--Torchpratt 12:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)--Torchpratt 12:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Anyone know where one can find this? ;D --Perplextrator 11:21, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

That's long since been revealed to be a hoax. 75.70.125.3 04:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

It's too modern sounding to possibly ever have been him. It sounds more like Satriani or Vai than Hendrix. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 21:21, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

why did you add this when it's already been stated with ref that it's a hoax, (and a pathetic one at that, where do these morons come from, give us a effin break!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jameselmo (talk • contribs) 01:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Old flame

He caught up with Linda Keith, an old flame that he still admired, and gave her a brand new black Fender Stratocaster as a token of his appreciation for her discovery efforts years earlier.

Encyclopaedias shouldn't resort to such idioms. What's wrong with "old friend"?
138.243.129.4 22:38, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

the jimi hendrix experience article should certainly NOT be merged with this article. jimi was simply a member of the experience, and therefore only part of the band. doing so would be like merging the led zeppelin article with the Robert Pland article!

Regardless of the merging of articles. Jimi Hendrix was not 'simply a member of the experience' He was brought over by Chas with the intention of making him a star, All songs and arrangements are by Hendrix a 'singer songwriter' apart from two distinctly underpar numbers by Noel. Nearly all published/broadcast interviews were of Jimi himself . The group was often reffered to as just Jimi Hendrix, to Noel's recorded digust. Just look at the contemporary articles/advertising and the percentage that show only photos of Hendrix. Jameselmo (talk) 15:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)Even the very name 'Experience' is ambiguous and can be seen seen as merely a description of his performance.

Spurious One Hit Wonder Claim

Whilst he may have only had one single in the charts, the success of his albums means he's not a one-hit wonder. This term is usually reserved for acts who have only one single but no albums which chart. By the definition used here, Led Zeppelin were also one-hit wonders.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.205.27.182 (talk) 16:33, 8 January 2007

Yes I agree. I had been thinking about removing this triviality as well. Thanks for having done so. DVdm 19:24, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Ayone who said Jimi Hendrix is a one hit wonder is wack. Her headlined Woodstock. If you ask an average person on the street they could name five JImi Hendrix songs whereas the Village People probably only one......YMCA

HERE HERE!!! exactly true!!!

From a UK perspective, Jimi had eleven hit singles and twenty-nine hit albums (according to Edition 18 of British Hit Singles and Albums). Mickraus 18:13, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Hold on folks, Jimi is in a situation like the Dead and Radiohead, an important musician with only one US Top 40 Single. Also Zeppelin is not a one hit wonder: six top 40 songs in America Doc Strange 17:49, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Accuracy of facts

If someone could produce a photo of Jimi playing a Gretsch Corvette, it would be news to me, and I've been running gretschpages.com for more than 10 years. If anyone has that photo, please share 216.84.96.34 18:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)Tim Baxter

In Electric gypsy there is a photo of him on UK's Top Of The Pops with this (miming) probably borrowed for the occasion as this is the only evidence of him associated with this guitarJameselmo (talk) 00:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

This article states that Jimi Hendrix was left handed. I have seen pictures (posted online) of Jimi writting with pen and paper and the pen is in his right hand. I believe he wrote with his right hand and played a right handed guitar upside down, strings reversed, in a left handed style. This should be checked.

You are correct. He was a left-handed guitarist, but would write with his right hand. Mickraus 14:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Jimi Hendrix was not part Mexican American, he was part Cherokee. He was pride of his Native American heritage; someone please change Mexican to Native American.

Jimi Hendrix was Right-handed. Not he could write with his right hand...He preferred to write with his right hand. I always found it strange that they teach you to use your off hand for guitar fingering. Shouldn't your dominant hand be used for tyhe detail work? I have a feeling Jimi saw the obsurdity in this as well.

Jimi was lefthanded! Although Jimi played guitar left-handed, he would do a number of other things right-handed, possibly because he was forced to either by his father or by his teachers. Jimi would write lyrics or sign autographs with his right hand and would also hold a desert spoon with his right hand [as can be seen in the Moebius print "Food For Thought", based on Jean Noel Coghe's print entitled "Food"]. When greeting someone with a handshake he would use his right hand (Robert Fripp claimed that Jimi once told him at a party in London, "Shake my left hand man, it's closest to my heart") and when speaking on the phone he would hold the receiver in his right hand. However, Jimi would use his left hand for pitching the ball when playing baseball, for combing his hair and for holding a cigarette. (mark, netherlands) —Preceding unsigned
Jimi himself says he was left-handed in a quote from an interview in 'Electric Gypsy' Shapiro & Glebeek page 37, about his first guitar "I didn't know I would have to put the strings round the other way, because I was left handed..."

Jameselmo (talk) 22:53, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Jam Sessions

There is no mention of the sessions he did with people like B.B.King,Stephen Stills and Al Kooper. These aren't just internet rumors. I have copys of all of these Playing For The End 16:57, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Find some references and put them in. By the way, I hope your writing is better than your spelling ("copys"?). +ILike2BeAnonymous 20:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

The Cheetah was not on West 21st street until the 1980's (as a "gentlemen's" club). It began life on May 1, 1966 as a renovation of the old Arcadia Ballroom at 53rd & Broadway, which is where Jimi performed. 70.23.13.145 22:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Several sources say that Hendrix Was might have been/homosexuel .... BUt he also had girlfriends didnt he? Monica dannemann etc. might he have been bisexuel ??? by the way im not ralking about the army story that he was released and so on...? what do you know... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.165.67.198 (talk) 17:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Correct that to say "some totally unfounded gossip" there is no "what do you know" nobody that new hendrix well has ever claimed this, women dripping off him, eat your heart out —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jameselmo (talk • contribs) 01:17, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Jimi's Original Name

I changed the beginning of the article (since reverted by ILike2BeAnonymous) because within the first six words there is an inaccuracy, viz., "Jimi Hendrix (born James Marshall Hendrix..." Anyone reading what I'd altered it to would have seen I had corrected that inaccuracy: Jimi was registered as Johnny Allen Hendrix by his mother on 7 December 1942, and it wasn't until nearly four years later his father changed it to James Marshall Hendrix. I'm sorry that I have to agree with another contributor who was sceptical of the accuracy of this article. If corrections to inaccuracies are going to be reverted, I can't see how the article will improve. Mickraus 00:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm don't doubt the veracity of what you say, but a source would probably help the edit not to be reverted. Dravick 02:14, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

One source is Jimi Hendrix: Electric Gypsy by Harry Shapiro & Caesar Glebbeek, ISBN 0 434 69523 8. Mickraus 16:42, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Excellent then, with a reference it will almost certainly not be reverted. Dravick 18:51, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Jimis original name is Johnny Allen Marshall. It was changed when Al Hendrix his father took him away from his mother. Jimi owever was called many names for the first few uyears of his life but then Al did not want him to remember his mother according to the biography.

Accuracy?

I've been trying to read through this article and keep questioning what is fact and what is opinion. It would take a lot of editing to make this into a true encyclopedia entry citing it's contents. I'm wondering how some of this article was approved to begin with. Hasn't anyone gone through and checked where the references came from?

I'm new to Wikipedia, so I don't know who is responsible to make sure things like this don't happen. Are we all responsible? Should there be a reference after every line?

ie; "He built upon the innovations and influences of blues stylists such as B.B. King, Muddy Waters, Albert King, and Buddy Guy, and derived style from rhythm and blues and soul guitarists Curtis Mayfield, Steve Cropper, and Cornell Dupree, as well as from traditional jazz. Hendrix was also inspired by rock pioneer Little Richard, having toured in Richard's back-up band "The Upsetters" before forming his own rock group in 1966".

Who said this? "derived style" seems like an opinion rather than a recognized fact especially in the context in which it was used. Did Jimi say this? I know he was influenced by Curtis Mayfield as is evident in his ballads, but I don't recall him citing Cornell Dupree in any interviews. I wish there was a reference that i could see, because that would be a fact, if it were true (and i don't know for sure), which I would want to retain and possibly pass on to someone else. Are we passing on rumours or opinions of other people we don't even know? Also, this is just one example where opinion and fact are in the same sentence.

I don't think I'm a Jimi Hendrix "authority" by any standard, but enough of a fan to be confused when i tried to read this article. I found myself going "hmmm?" for most of it.

Analogypsy 20:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

The phrase "derived style" could be used if someone is educated in music and could make the educated decision that he "derived style" from another player.

Indeed, we are all responsible to add references when we add some text. There should be a lot more references in there (but maybe not one for each line, that would be too much). If you think something is dubious, you can add the {dubious} template, which look like . If something definitly needs a ref, you can add {fact}, which look like ‹The template Talkfact is being considered for merging.›  (to make the templates work, there must be two brackets). And if something is completly wrong, you can just remove it. Dravick 03:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

OMG does any one here know what they are talking about!

Jimi was born Johnny Allen Hendirx on 11/27/42- 9/11/46 Al changed it here in the Seattle court house to James Marshall Hendrix after his uncle who was killed in the war. A name with dignatiy that is what Al said. It was not long after that that Jimi Named him self JIMI William Mitchell was her (lucile's) second husband (married in 1958 just before she died) There was a man in her life named Johnny Williams Hummmm think about that one for a while. Al ofter stated that Jimi was not his son, until the money came of course. Lucille gave birth to Jimi while Al was gone to war. When he came home after many years he wanted to take over as he was a very stong willed man and wanted to be in charge.

go to my space and see Lucille funeral last year as she was in a unmarked grave all these (48) years. johnnyallenhendrix/myspace.com Bonnie Fitzgerald —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.61.32.30 (talk) 20:24, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Suggestions

1) RE: the external link to "Photo gallery showing rare pictures inside Jimi's first Marshall JTM-45/100 amp"

The 2006 Marshall JTM-45/100 amp costs £3200 (US$6240)

(http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar+Amp/product/Marshall/JTM-45%2F100+Head/10/1)

therefore I think it extremely unlikely that Hendrix's first amp was one from this product line, no musician starting out has that much money for equipment (I know from experience!!). I think that possibly whoever put this link up is a bit confused, because when you follow the link it is written "Hendrix's #1 Amp, the 'Dickinson 45/100'", and on the homepage of that site "Uploaded photographs of Jimi Hendrix's favourite Marshall". So I conclude this person need the concepts "#1 (chronologically first)" and "#1 (preference)" disambiguated :) I will edit this after seeing what anyone thinks, i don't want to cause trouble, this page is full of debate anyway. Someome else maybe can do it?

Emayoh (talk) 19:57, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

1. That link is no longer valid a.yway and should be removed. The link as is goes to a nealy-spam portal page.

2) Jimi Hendrix is/was part-Cherokee and I think this should be mentioned in the article. The Cherokee Nation article links to Jimi Hendrix. Whoever has the book "Electric Gypsy" by Shapiro can find this fact and cite a source, unfortunately, my copy is in my other house, which is very far away from where I am now.

Liquidcentre 16:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

1. in response. the product line you mention is one of a copy created from an original amp and the financial aspect of this will be far different to that of today. after much reading from the mentioned owners web site and other references such as univibes magazine (written br Ceaser Glebeek) it would appear to be fact that the amp 7026 is both a favourite and according to evidence the number 1 amp in his chain of amplifiers and the 1st Marshall amp owned by Jimi thus allowing the terminology used.

2. no comment as i am not sure.

DNine 23:30, 23 July 2007 (UTC)DNine

Hendrix is a legend --Swilliams1989 16:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Jimi Hendrix was not part Mexican American, he was part Cherokee. He was pride of his Native American heritage; someone please change Mexican to Native American.

Translation of a text on scaruffi.com

Hi! If English is your first language, and if you think you control the Italian language well enough, then please consider translating this article about Jimi Hendrix, written by (musical) scientist Piero Scaruffi. Your help is greatly appreciated. - Face 10:10, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

GA Status

I noticed that this article is a former Featured Article Candidate. Just as a pointer, this article should be nominated for Good Article status, and that will be one step towards making it featured. It will probably offer strong points of where to improve. -- Reaper X 21:58, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately as with many other musician entries this article screams PoV and is in general uncritical against Hendrix' accomplishments. It is _not_ fitting for an encyclopedia to talk about the 'profound sense of melody' of Hendrix as if there is some kind of objective standard of melodious quality. Who the hell wrote the whole 'Jimi Hendrix Experience' part and onwards actually? - since it reads much like a biography of Hendrix on his fansite or so, elevating him to a musical hero, pitted against people like Noel Redding and the English public. Noel Redding should be glad he hasn't been crucified by the public for his role against Hendrix if this entry is to be believed. A total rewrite should be done imo, and let someone understand that while music is very much subjective, it can be written about objectively. 217.123.72.213 00:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Inaccurate gravesite

Jimi's gravesite is in Renton, not Seattle. Both are mentioned in the article. It should be changed, but I don't know how to do that... 134.39.100.71 21:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)KMS

Guitar tuning

The last sentence of the first paragraph describing Axis Bold As Love is incorrect. Come on (let the good times roll) is in E, not Eb. Someone fix that or delete this thing I put up here. 12.201.72.38 08:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

We are talking about the greatest guitar playing history. The fact that one song is E does not automatically make his guitar tuning standard. It is common knowledge that Hendrix and Stevfie Ray Vaughn both used an Eb tuning. Beside let the good times roll is an Earl King cover which would be another reason why it is written in E.

Miles Davis

I added the line in the legacy section about Hendrix's influence on Miles. This is common knowledge.SmokeyTheCat 14:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Still it should be sourced. I have rephrased the stuff with a source (I could not find a source stating Hendrix as main influence on Davis'electric Jazz; "only" source for his admiration of Hendrix.)--HJensen, talk 21:34, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

The best source for Hendrix's influence on Miles Davis is Davis himself -- he writes about it extensively in Miles Davis: The Autobiography. Miles claims that he was on his way to London for rehearsals with Hendrix and that he was planning to record an album with Hendrix. Psychlist Psychlist —Preceding comment was added at 16:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Image

Dear dedicated Wikipedians, Am I the only one who prefers the image previously in the article to the one currently in the article? I sure hope not that'd be icky ^_^. If it's not too terribly much trouble, does someone who can edit the article and who agrees want to change it back? That'd be great, thanks! <3 152.3.46.147 11:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

You mean the black and white one of him smoking? if so, yeah, I liked that a bit more. But this is fine ; doesn't make all that much difference, honestly. 12.107.247.29 07:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Electric Vodka

I know that someone came out with a brand of vodka called Hendrix Electric Vodka. My understanding is that his family was upset about it, but I don't no about any legal conflict nor do I know what company released the vodka. Can anyone elaborate?
ufossuck 01:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

check this out. i think the family sued

http://www.jimihendrix.com/news/news,legal_vodka.html "His Family" consists solely of Al hendrix's Japanese-American adopted daughter nee "Janie Jinka" who met Jimi at a very early age, three times very briefly in his lifetime and a cousin Bob Hendrix, who played with Jimi as a young boy. Hendrix' immediate and extended blood family who he grew up with get nothing - his brother Leon and his family only recieving one gold record (basically an ornamental keepsake) and the people who brought Jimi up and looked after him get zip. A bit hypocritical when you consider Janie & co were selling hendrix brand red wine, as this was the very thing that jimi choked to death on according to Dr. Bannister the doctor who first attended to hendrix at the hospital.

Jimi & ELP

Adding this? Jimi Hendrix was considering joining the group ELP; the British press, after hearing about this, speculated that such a supergroup would have been called "Hendrix, Emerson, Lake & Palmer", or HELP. Before settling on Carl Palmer, they approached Mitch Mitchell of the Jimi Hendrix Experience; Mitchell was uninterested but passed the idea to Jimi Hendrix. Hendrix, tired of his band and wanting to try something different, expressed an interest in playing with the group. Due to scheduling conflicts such plans were not immediately realized, but the initial three planned on a jam session with Hendrix after their debut at the Isle of Wight Festival, with the possibility of him joining. Hendrix died shortly thereafter, so the three pressed on as Emerson, Lake and Palmer.

Greg Lake made this comment on ELP's discussions with Hendrix:

"Yeah, that story is indeed true, to some degree...Mitch Mitchell had told Jimi about us and he said he wanted to explore the idea. Even after Mitch was long out of the picture and we had already settled on Carl, talk about working with Jimi continued. We were supposed to get together and jam with him around August or September of 1970, but he died before we could put it together." --81.208.74.184 16:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I've heard of that too. Ultimately, it needs a reliable source, but if I find one I'll enter it.-h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 10:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

The only source is this extremely post hendrix, uncorroberated assertion (fantasy?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.204.118 (talk) 01:23, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Harlem thugs

What evidence is there that his guitar was stolen by Harlem thugs? Was it proven that the thieves were from Harlem? What makes thugs from Harlem worthy of a description, assuming these thugs were not from Minneapolis or White Plains? Is it because they are from Harlem? The implication is that they are black, I believe.

Under the "Fender Stratocaster" section it states that Jimi Hendrix was left handed, and in the trivia section it states that he was actually right handed and that he only played left handed. Does any one know which is correct? --Gregasaurous 05:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Hendrix was left handed, but due to the availability of only right handed guitars at the time, played a right handed guitar upside down, essentially left handed. It is intersting to note that shortly before his death, friend Eric Clapton purchased a real left handed guitar for him, yet was unable to present him with it, hearing of Hendrix's death a few days before he was due to meet him. :PriceyCabbage|PriceyCabbage]] 22:02, 17 October 2007

With the infobox's picture...

Can we get a caption on this? Such as when and were this picture of him was taken? Thanks. --ASDFGHJKL=Greatest Person Ever+Coolest Person Ever 00:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

caption added now —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jameselmo (talk • contribs) 01:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Voodoo Child?

Surely Voodoo Child is supposed to be Voodoo Chile. The1after909 08:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Both tracks appear on Electric Ladyland:

Voodoo Chile

Voodoo Child (Slight Return)

DVdm 08:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

UK Ladyland Cover

Please provide the original UK Ladyland cover instead of the abortive wussy US cover.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.213.93.202 (talk) 00:11, 9 May 2007

What? I represent that comment. I have the original Electric Ladyland US album, and it's fine. What's with you Limeys? +ILike2BeAnonymous 00:25, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Hendrix never agreed to that album cover in the first place so why should it be here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardrockallahhuakbar (talk • contribs) 20:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC) He never agreed to choking on his own vomit either. Perhaps we shouldn't put that in?--Egghead06 07:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The cover design that he wanted as he wrote clearly and also painstakingly illustrated in his letter to Reprise, was Linda Eastman's photo with the children in Central Park, which was ignored. and the red and yellow blurred blob of his head for some unknown reason was used. So neither were what he wanted, though he obviously took particular dislike to the UK cover as his comments on it show. Nevertheless the UK cover is the cultural icon that people are willing to pay very large sums to own, not Mr Blobby.Jameselmo (talk) 22:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Experience Music Project

Some Hendrix fan should write about Seattle's EMP permanent Hendrix exhibit, certainly the world's most complete Hendrix collection.PedEye1 21:00, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

protection tag?

Yet another indefinitely sprotected article with no protection tag--69.118.235.97 22:51, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

• I will post the {{pp-semi-protected|small=yes}} tag. if this is the wrong tag, can somebody infrom me or just change it? —Gaff ^ταλκ 23:00, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Paratrooping release

"He was given an early release from military service in Fort Campbell, Kentucky for "behavioral problems",[4] though rumors held that he faked homosexuality or was given a medical release for breaking his ankle while parachuting."

This needs to be fixed. You can go directly to the Jimi Hendrix website [1] and it states why he was discharged.

"In 1961, Jimmy left home to enlist in the United States Army and in November 1962 earned the right to wear the "Screaming Eagles" patch for the paratroop division. While stationed at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, Jimmy formed The King Casuals with bassist Billy Cox. After being discharged due to an injury he received during a parachute jump"

--68.55.48.8 00:53, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

There's much speculation that those facts from the website are untrue. --- My IP Address

A portion of Hendrix's military record dealing with his discharge is available online.[2] It includes statements from his commanding officers and fellow soldiers indicating that the reason for his discharge was poor performance and lack of respect for military regulations. There is no mention at all of homosexuality. Since these documents are a primary reference, I've removed the bit about "thoughts of homosexuality", and changed it to reflect what is found in his military record. —PHaze 03:56, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

The available records clearly show he was discharged due to his general unsuitability as described, and thefore it should be pointed out that the Charles Cross statement has no merit as he has never provided any reliable source for his assertion.

Jameselmo (talk) 22:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Jimi Hendrix did fake being homosexual to get out of the army because they would not let him play his guitar as much as he wanted to. I am not surprised that the records previously discussed do not have the homosexuality rumor on them because of the times. This is the 1960s we are talking about. No one ever said they were homosexual even if they were faking it because they would be shunned.

by the way, I am straight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.195.196.19 (talk) 18:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

your sexuality is not the question, how you come by this information is.

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Hendrix DID NOT play with James Brown

In the trivia section (the same entry that erroneously states that Hendrix was not left-handed) also states that he played right-handed with James Brown. Jimi Hendrix NEVER played with James Brown. I am well versed in the history of Hendrix and James Brown, and can tell you that Hendrix playing with Brown is a myth! Hence this piece of "trivia" has never made it into any Hendrix biography of any repute...In fact in Charles Shaar Murray's Crosstown Traffic, he writes that "if" Hendrix had played with Brown that Jimi would have lasted five minutes. Maximum. (p167)

According to Charles Cross's biography of Jimi Hendrix, he DID play with James Brown but was kicked because he didn't blend in with the band and was stealing the spotlight from James Brown. James even said "YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE PRETTY! I'M THE ONLY ONE ALLOWED TO BE PRETTY!" when Hendrix wore a hat or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Supuhfanng (talk • contribs) 00:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

that was little richard —Preceding unsigned comment added by A plague of rainbows (talk • contribs) 20:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

This article can do so much better

Lots of POV fancruft bullshit needs to go. Non-free images without fair use rationale, when public domain should be readily availabe...Let's clean this mother up and get a Good Article status...—Gaff ^ταλκ 08:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Coltrane

Hendrix strove to combine what he called "earth", a blues, jazz, or funk driven rhythm accompaniment, with "space", the high-pitched psychedelic sounds created by his guitar improvisations.

This sounds almost identical to what Coltrane was trying to do. —Viriditas | Talk 02:06, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

This sounds like an direct quote of an authors opinion and should be removed as it is unverifiable, and also plagiarism at that89.241.204.118 (talk) 01:33, 20 February 2008 (UTC). The only accurate reference to this I can think of is Jimi himself at his nadir at the Madison Square debacle "That's what happens when Earth fucks with Space" Jameselmo (talk) 22:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Again, tag it with {{fact}} as I explained in my comments below. That's a very useful function for editors here, as a "reality check" on what other editors have put in here. +ILike2BeAnonymous ([[User

talk:ILike2BeAnonymous|talk]]) 22:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

How about just getting rid of all this unverifiable unwarranted trivial nonsense, and treating hendrix as the major musician he was, on the plane of louis armstrong, duke ellington, miles davis etc. now that would be a reality check (miles thought so anyway)

External Link Request

I would like to request the following link be added under the External Links section on the article page:

• Jimi Hendrix/Archive 3 discography at Discogs

The information available through that site is significant and relevant. Any information that is deemed inaccurate can be updated by anyone.

Thank you

Here we go again (left-handed issues)

Someone who is able to edit should change this line from the article, because it is misleading. Right now, the article says:

Another remarkable fact about Hendrix is that he was left-handed, yet used right-handed Stratocasters, playing them upside-down.

Okay, that's half correct and yet still completley wrong. He did play a right handed guitar upside-down, but he also moved the tuning pegs to the opposite side of the headstock and strung the guitar backwards, so, essentially, Hendrix was simply turning a right-handed guitar into a left-handed one. People get confused on this and think he was playing the guitar "backwards" with the order of the strings reversed, but he wasn't.

the bit about his gravestone says that the strat depicted was a right handed one even though he played left-handed. should they have had a depiction of a right-handed guitar with the tuning pegs displaced? more importantly, what should the article say?backstabb 22:11, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

^^ You are wrong about him switching the tuning pegs to the opposite side of the headstock ... there is no photographic evidence of this whatsoever ... however, Jimi was known to remove the nut and reverse it's direction to allow him to play "right side up" on his flipped guitars ... similarly, he relocated the strap button from the top horn to the bottom horn on his stratocasters for the obvious utility of being able to stand & play onstage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.166.66.2 (talk) 16:44, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I recently wrote on the Early Years article's talk page "Jimi played a right-hand guitar, but restrung (lower E at the top). I read that he liked playing a right-hand Strat because he then had the knobs and whammy above the strings, which he felt more natural. Also, by restringing, he unintentionally (according to manufatures of Strats) created a unique sound as the pick-ups were asymemetrically built. I.e., the part intented to pick the high E now picked up a low E and vice versa. I'll check for the source". I'll be looking :-) --HJensen, talk 08:14, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

"the part intented to pick the high E now picked up a low E and vice versa." it has to do with the slant of the bridge pickup - the strat was designed with the end of the pickup under the treble strings closer to the bridge so the high e would have a sharp piercing sound, with a mellower sound on the bass strings. hendrix's restringing reversed that

Here is, for the record, a reference for the importance of the restringing and the Stratocaster pickups for the "Hendrix sound": Seven Fender Stratocaster Models That Pay Tribute to Jimi Hendrix. --HJensen, talk 12:50, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Hendrix played a right handed strat - so what! so do many other famous & not so famous players, Otis Rush even plays with the strings upside down, move on, jeez! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jameselmo (talk • contribs) 01:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean by "move one, jeez!? This is the place of discussing big and small things. And apparently some had not "moved on", and so others try to explain as best they can what the issues are. And some even provided a citation. :-) --HJensen, talk 07:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It is well established that playing a guitar any way you fancy is not the point, as Jimi himself pointedly said "I play the guitar with my ears" Hendrix is continually discussed as if he were just a guitarist, or, at a push, possibly a guitarist singer/songwriter, when he was so much more, to many other musicians at the time and now. A bandleader (The Blue Flame/Rainflowers; Jimi Hendrix Experience; Gypsy Sun And Rainbows, Band Of Gypsys; Jimi Hendrix Experience [II]) producer, sound engineer, studio owner involved very much in it's design and outcome, an artist in his whole performance concept (painted guitars and sacrifice of said, costume/image, and his many drawings - including an illustrated design/layout of ELL LP, an artist that was also very much aware and involved in the business side, (read my transcript of his note to Mike Jefferey) had ambitions of making films, as his screenplay "Moondust" testifies. The whole reason of his popularity cannot possibly be just his guitar playing - an adolescent, male, 60's, fantasy creation. There are not enough of these to explain his No.1 LP Electric Ladyland and the presense of Are You Experienced in the USA charts for 106 weeks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jameselmo (talk • contribs) 02:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

A project for me

I'm gonna re-write this article on my userpage. I'll find rferences for the stuff I can, delete what I can't. Give me a week, and you'll have a clean article. I promise. -^Violask8₁₉₇₆ 22:08, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Amps

The Marshall Amps that define Jimi's early sound (Are You Experienced and early singles Hey Joe, Fire and The Wind Cries Mary)were Marshall JTM-45/100 or "Super 100" (also known as JTM-100). Like Eric Clapton's 100 Watt Marshalls with Cream until April 1968, these had four KT-66 power valves and an aluminium chassis. Purple Haze was recorded with an Arbiter FuzzFace plugged directly into the (all tube) PA. During Axis sessions, Hendrix had switched to SoundCity amps (the Hiwatt precursor) with EL34 power tubes, and for Electric Ladyland, to Hiwatt. Later Marshall amps Hendrix used will have had EL34 power tubes (used by Marshall from 1967 onwards). It is sometimes claimed that Hendrix had these replaced by 6550 power tubes, but that is to be verified.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who's_influence_on_sound

Herringgull2 14:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Proto metal

In the documentary Metal: A headbanger's journey Jimi is listed under proto-metal, and I agree. Let's face it some solos are pretty metal, and even a few heavy riffs. Just listen to Dimebag play Little wing, sounds pretty metal. Anyway I'm not saying he was metal, just that he influenced it's development (through technique and effects) and played early versions of it. So I think we should also add the proto-metal label.

--Mudel 17:13, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

It seems to me a bit silly to add a tag for a music genre because an artist was an inspiration musicians who developed another genre. Y'know, hendrix also did a lot of heroin and used a lot of effects pedals to make "dreamy soundscapes" in some of his music, so maybe we should call him "proto-shoegaze" also. There's no doubt Hendrix influenced nearly every guitarist who followed him no matter the genre, but it seems a bit much to go back and label his music as "proto" anything. ROG 19 20:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

YES HENDRIX IS PROTO METAL!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.224.80 (talk) 23:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Guitar Legacy

Jimi Hendrix also frequently used a set of '9's (regular light-gauge strings) on his guitar, but then substituted the bottom E and A strings from a heavier set, such as the E and A from a set of '10's, thereby enhancing the sound of his 'soloing on top, rythm on the bottom' playing.

Interesting. Citation? +ILike2BeAnonymous 20:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Kidnapping

The citation for the bizarre kidnapping segment is a broken link. 74.77.208.52 20:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Then replace it with {{fact|date=[date]}} (which generates ). +ILike2BeAnonymous 20:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

it is mentioned in the henderson book iirc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 18:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Hendrix DID play Funk-Rock and Jam

It is no myth, nor is it the fact that Hendrix was JUST an influence on Funk-Rock, but Hendrix DID do Funk-Rock, you may have noticed someone putting Funk-Rock and Jam band into his musical genres list, and that was me before i made this account. Any doubters on this theory need to actually go on to the "Funk-Rock" page and see for themselves. It clearly says that songs like "Little Miss Lover", "Power of Soul", "Izabella", "Freedom" and "Straight Ahead" had Funky Riffs and funky basslines combined with his typical Rock sound, thus he is Funk-Rock and not just a influence to Funk-Rock bands of today.
Also I believe that Hendrix also did Jam band, or "Jam". This style simply features musical improvisations and usually this style is used in genres such as Folk-Rock, Funk-Rock, Blues-Rock, Jazz Fusion, Psychedelic Rock, Rock 'n' Roll and Southern Rock. Now Jimi and The Jimi Hendrix Experience usually had musical improvisations in there music and thats the truth, and the truth is also that they covered those genres just listed except for Folk-Rock, Jazz Fusion and Southern Rock. So therefore Funk-Rock and Jam should firmly stay within his list of genres and shouldn't be removed, his and his bands name pop up in both of the genres threads here on Wikipedia so I hope it doesn't get removed AGAIN.

One last thing he did play with James Brown, there was split second footage of them together playing on the mini-series called "Seven ages of Rock" that aired a few months back, this is true because the first episode was all about Jimi and his development of Pyschadelic Rock.TomKing1980 19:34, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Genres

There seems to be much contention about genres. I feel Psychedelic soul is a genre that should be mentioned on Hendrix's page. For example, if he warrants a mention in the genre description on All Music Guide, see All Music Guide's Psychedelic Soul entry, then I think his contribution to that genre should not be overlooked. Mickraus 13:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I was expecting some intelligent discussion on this, rather than repeated undos by Asams10. Mickraus 13:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

...of course, I was expecting to be free from a personal attack.--Asams10 14:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I was expecting some intelligent discussion which I'm still not finding here. Did you even visit AMG's overview of the genre? And you've not explained your assertions about the genre. And you've reverted yet again. Mickraus 14:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I looked at it, and all I can say is that I'm skeptical as to the "reliability" of that source. What can you tell us about "allmusic.com" that would persuade us to trust it? +ILike2BeAnonymous 19:07, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I offer it merely for discussion, but I felt the article had credibility because if the mention of Sly and the Family Stone. Sly Stone and Jimi had mutual respect and enjoyed each other's music. The mention of Curtis Mayfield and the Isley Brothers also gave it credence in my view: they were artists Jimi played with before he was famous; therefore, the assertion that Jimi was a catalyst for that genre made sense. That's my rationale for adding it as one of the main genres on Jimi's page. Mickraus 19:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm just not seeing the "soul" connection. Psychedelic, sure, but as soul music is almost always considered the music of Motown, Stax/Volt, etc., as a genre closely allied to R&B, I don't think that genre fits Hendrix very well. +ILike2BeAnonymous 20:14, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

electric ladyland, title track. but the whole genre thing is stupid and reductivist and needs to go away —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 18:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, you have a point. But as the article correctly points out, Hendrix cut his teeth on the R&B circuit. Hendrix did regard Motown as "pseudo-Soul". Perhaps he was more an influence on the Psychedelic Soul genre than he was a participant. Mickraus 20:24, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

You're attempting to debate without any weapons. I've given my arguments. We either limit it to major genres or we list them all. How many musical Genres are there? He played them all at one time or another. Ask Jimi what he played and you'd say he played his own Genre, he was his own person. Don't patronize me. Don't try to say you know what music he played.--Asams10 16:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I didn't realise debate was so confrontational that I needed "weapons." Whose definition of major genres shall we use? Hold on, you say Jimi played his own type of music, in which case scrap all the Genres listed in his entry. Why can't I say what type of music he played? I'm just as entitled as you are, or anyone else. Mickraus 18:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Jimi himself said there were two kinds of music - Good and Bad, all this stuff is so much chit-chat, take "blues" for instance, all of the artists designated as such played many different styles of music then popular in the African American (USA) community, for "blues" read African American pop music ie "Race music" later termed "Rhythm & Blues" (due to the business community's new found sensitivity to criticism about overt racism) for the commercial charts. As opposed to the "White???" "majority???" community charts ie "Pop music" who decides what's what - business that's it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jameselmo (talk • contribs) 21:27, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Can someone get rid of the protection on his page?

I wish to list Funk-Rock and Jam into his genres, im the same guy who has been putting them in recently, I put forth reasons as to why he did play both genres, I stated how his and his bands name popped up in both of the genres pages and its simply the truth anyway. I have no trouble believing that the dispute over what genres he does was the reason it was protected in the first place but im simply putting them in because its the truth, and whoever is removing it everytime simply hasn't heard all his stuff. TomKing1980 18:21, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

If you try to add those genres, they will be removed, as they're incorrect. I refer you to the discussion just above. Hendrix was not a funk artist, and "jam" is something that came much later. +ILike2BeAnonymous 01:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Im sorry but you cant base it on your opinion, first off I know a hell of a alot about music genres in general and much of his later work such as on his unfinished album were Funk-Rock, note how I wasn't saying Funk as the genre, but the genre which fusioned Funk and Rock together. The genre Funk-Rock usually incorperates Funky drums and basslines with a typical hard rock sound, which is what Jimi Hendrix did, go on the Funk-Rock page and see for yourself, hes one of the first artists to pop up on the page, saying how some of his work are the earliest examples, because that is true, songs like "Little Miss Lover" and "Freedom" are Funk-Rock. Hendrix was also Jam as it simply means how an artist/band uses musical improvisations in their songs or, most usually, live performances, and its no myth that The Jimi Hendrix Experience did heavy and obvious improvisations in their shows. Ive put forth logical reasons, ive stated the obvious, why is Blues-Rock there when the only real Blues orientated song hes done is Red House and thats no lie, hes done far more Funk orientated songs. I am right on this TomKing1980 19:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I any case, there shouldn't be too many styles in an infobox. I would be perfectly happy with just "Rock" and "Blues" (the "Acid Rock" and "Phsycedelic Rock" is definitely one too many). "Funk Rock" strikes me as odd (marginal for Hendrix at best). And "Jam" is not a musical genre imo. It is just a characterization how a band performs their given genre.--HJensen, talk 22:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Not even close to right about Hendrix and the blues. The album "Jimi Blues" should be adequate evidence that Hendrix played more blues than simply "Red House." You seem to be a fan of the later-period Hendrix, so "Earth Blues," or "Hear My Train-A-Comin'" they don't sound like blues to you? Additionally, much of Jimi's jamming style was heavily rooted in blues.ROG 19 20:39, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

27 Club

What is the objection to the 27 Club? A two-sentence mention of it in the middle of the article is taboo? It's encyclopedic enough to have an article, and this is easily the most obvious place to link there. I was having a conversation where the 27 club came up, I wanted to look it up on Wikipedia but didn't know what it might be called, so I tried the most famous member, Jimi Hendrix. There was no mention of it here, so I tried Morrison, where I found the link, in the lead. I don't have a problem with not putting the link in the lead, but there should be a link somewhere, like in the "Death" section. The link is useful, it's not intrusive, what is the problem? eae 07:50, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't fell that the 27 club article is particularly encyclopedic. There's no particular reason to add in a bunch of superstition to this article, even if it only is a paragraph. ➪HiDrNick! 08:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I removed it from the lead a few days ago, as it clearly did not belong there. As to whether it is notable enough to be in the Death section, I am in doubt. Sure, it is superstition, but on the other hand it is well-known concept in popular culture, so a half line (or a footnote with a source) could not hurt in my opinion.--HJensen, talk 08:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Hendrix's birth name

Jimi Hendrix's birth name was James Marshall Hendrix not Johnny Allen Hendrix! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.215.197.36 (talk) 21:47, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

No it was not. It was Johnny Allen Hendrix.--HJensen, talk 21:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

He was registered as Johnny Allen Hendrix by his mother on 7 December 1942, his father Al changed it to James Marshall Hendrix on 11 September 1946, when Jimi was three years old. -- Mickraus 21:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Jimi Hendrix - Rainbow Bridge

I've read he entry on Jimi Hendrix, and nowhere is there any menion of Rainbow Bridge. Certainly someone out there an rectify this oversight...:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.158.234.145 (talk) 13:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

James "Al" Hendrix

Hi,

The article on James Al Hendrix is a shocker. Someone who knows what's what should probably give it a once-over. --Slashme 09:42, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

jimi hendrix memorials in seattle

In addition to the already mentioned memorials, there is another in Seattle. at the woodland park zoo, they have a huge rock that you can stand on to get a better view of the lions. It has a plaque that says that it is jimi hendrix's rock. It is pretty cool when you check it out, and people who are visiting Seattle wishing to see his grave and memorials might like to see this as well. also, it's a cool zoo. 72.223.102.107 03:04, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Stratocaster

It's tough to know where to begin, but most of what is writtn here about Strats and Hendrix is nonsense. For instance:

Strats aren't easier to play than other guitars; lots of people find them more difficult because the longer scale length.

Hendrix switched from rosewood to maple neck Strats because Fender stopped making rosewood, not because of some artistic reason or inspiration from the change in headstock design -- he needed a continuous supply of guitars because he destroyed so much equipment, so he took what ever Fender was making at the time.

The business about his having such big hands that he could fret with his thumb as well his fingers is nonsense; almost anybody can do this and many people do; it doesn't take particularly big hands. The thing that's unusual is that he did it so extensively.

And on and on. This section needs a total re-write.

Psychlist 16:24, 17 October 2007 (UTC)Psychlist

Be WP:BOLD and do it! You seem to know what you talk about, so please add to the article. Please find good sources along the way. Happy editing! --HJensen, talk 18:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

talk People with smaller hands can't fit their hands around enough to fret the strings with the thumb.

Also it would make sense for Jimi to switch to maple since he used very light gauge strings (Thus brightening his sound.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Supuhfanng (talk • contribs) 00:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

what has the colour of the wood got to do with it! the "lightening" "brightening" "darkening" more like "floating away into a cloud of nonsense" it would make sense to stop talking ****Jameselmo (talk) 21:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

No-one invented feedback

"Also Hendrix didn't come up with feedback, Lennon did."

One cannot invent a physical phenomena. Saying that one person did so is ignorant. Perhaps one person is well-known for using the feedback of an eletric guitar and its amplifier to musical effect.... but that does not mean they invented feedback.

Feedback has been around for as long as there has been coupling between a system's input and its output, whether that be an electro-acoustic system, a biological one, an economical one, or otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dc197 (talk • contribs) 02:30, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I didn't bother check for how long this sub section has been around, but for at least a month, the lead of the main article has been stating: "Jimi Hendrix helped pioneer the technique of guitar feedback with overdriven amplifiers, incorporating into his music what was previously an undesirable sound." Nothing about him "inventing" feedback. So let's focus discussions on what is in the article, not what is not or has been.--HJensen, talk 11:11, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Feedback has always been there as an unwanted noise, and Hendrix may have helped develop the use of feedback, as an integral part of a playing style, but it is a fact that the use of it on record in this way was preceded (pioneered) by: John Lennon (I Feel Fine); Pete Townsend of The Who (Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere etc.) and Jeff Beck etc. All English guitarists. [I'm not English by the way]Jameselmo (talk) 21:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

New York musician

add him to the new york musicians list as ny was his US base his whole career. not just nyc he spent time upstate writing and recording too —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 18:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

There's no denying it was his favourite spot, from winter of 1963/64 until his death, apart from roughly a year in the UK, and a bit of time on West Coast, he lived and worked out of NYC, even when he rented the house up in Boiceville he still spent a good part of his time in NYC.Jameselmo (talk) 21:25, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I am tired of Pete Fucking Townshend... what do you mean he "influenced" Hendrix.... they have nothing in fucking common and that pete thinks he's jesus —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simonhoyos (talk • contribs) 02:43, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

How about: Marshall stack? Feedback? stage act? ring a bell?Jameselmo (talk) 21:18, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Category overload

Have you noticed how long the category listing has gotten on this page? Thirty-three of them. That's the first problem. Second, and more importantly, over a third of them are maintenance categories. Most of these have very long names, stretching the list out very long. On top of that, the maintenance cats appear first on the list. Can someone find citations for these tags, or remove the passages? Failing that, can we change or remove the dates on these tags? Or something? Help! -Freekee 03:38, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I thought this was a discussion page? are you wanting to limit discussion, are you paying for it, are you even discussing pertinent topics with your NEW CATEGORY THAT MAKES THIRTY-FOUR now by your own reckoning, nobody seems to want to discuss, just start their own ???Jameselmo (talk) 21:38, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Early life article merge

I have merged all of the information, verbatim, from the article Early life of Jimi Hendrix. Most of the information is uncited, so it can be either cited or removed eventually. Ckessler (talk) 01:59, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I have just discovered that this section is more ore less a ripp off of pages 10-12 of the book "The Essential Jimi Hendrix"; see here. It has changed a bit over the recent months, but it is misuse of copyrighted material. We need to remove it, or very quickly rewrite it. I think this has top priority! --HJensen, talk 23:09, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

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