Talk:Jill Price

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Women

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of women on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.WomenWikipedia:WikiProject WomenTemplate:WikiProject WomenWikiProject Women articles

Biography

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles

Psychology

	Psychology portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Psychology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Psychology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PsychologyWikipedia:WikiProject PsychologyTemplate:WikiProject Psychologypsychology articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

additional information needed

need a history of the woman - biography. how she realized she had such good memories. how it started. when it started. add a picture of her to make the page more appealing to look at.

can also add things about her abilities, there is a lot more information in those articles that can be added to this page. can also link this page to others with hyperthymesia.

Accuracy

How accurate is the statement "who is thus far the only person discovered who has ability to recite, and thereby relive, all the days of her life since". Especially with vast amounts of scientific proof that other people can do the exact same thing. Kim Peek for example. - Ciyean

She is the first person American psychologists say they are aware has come forward. Which is not proof at all that she is the first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.196.137.1 (talk) 23:06, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Title

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.130.198.80 (talk) 00:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can the title be corrected to capitalize the last name "Price" ? --Markdandrea (talk) 04:13, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I"ve done so, and also suggested this article to be on Did You Know?. --w^L^{<speak·check>} 06:02, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Journal

She keeps a massive joiurnmal. In the popular news accounts (have not seen the science literature), they dismiss the role of the journal, but I think it's crucial. I beleive that she has been working her brain hard and that's how she's developed this memory and this brain size distortion. I think the journal is part of the system. It's much like Scrabble players. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TCO (talk • contribs) 12:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

she lives in the past by choice/training

http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A1H5KV4IVRNC9E —Preceding unsigned comment added by TCO (talk • contribs) 13:10, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup

Removed some structures too poetic and added references to claims that she has no perfect recall but instead an obsession with her own life.Rajakhr (talk) 05:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's incorrect to say her memory is a result of obsession/compulsion. Unless she or an expert told you that, then it's a matter of opinion and should not be included. The writer from WIRED was simply expressing an opinion and may not have even read her book and spoken with her.

I read her book and never felt that she consciously tried to have an abnormal memory. It was just a part of her and she couldn't turn it off.

If someone at age 10 developed a master plan to remember every day of their life, within a very short period of time there would simply be too much data. And there wouldn't be enough time in the day to continue to read and memorize all the past days.

The fact that she can recall current events from every day of her life shows her memory is not simply an obsession with her self. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.237.133.156 (talk) 00:46, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the OCD comment should be kept, but agree that it needs to be justified. There needs to be more added here about retrieval practice and how obsessive compulsive behaviors towards memories could explain this phenomenon. I would also point out that people who are obsessive compulsive are not "consciously trying" to be so. But this is a debate that can take place on another page.

Best, Kmdoiron (talk) 19:18, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The research and comment by an expert in the field. Gary Marcus, is already framed with the word "speculated." Furthermore Marcus's suggestions have been partly rebutted by both another expert McGaugh and Price herself. All of this seems perfectly relevant and notable. It's not for us to speculate on what the mechanism might be, which connects Prices' obsessive behavior with her memory ability, nor to personally comment on what Marcus may or may not have said about it. His own writing might be reported more fully, but that would need to be balanced by more on McGaugh's scepticism. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:22, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think an important aspect to the idea of Jill Price is how there are skeptics. I thought it was so amazing how much she remembered and how strong her autobiographical memory was but then starting asking questions when it was brought to my attention that OCD and her need to relive and go over past events played a big role in how she was able to recall events from her past and have such a strong autobiographical memory. I think without a doubt there should be either a section, or there should be information added to an existing section, that has to do with the skeptics and how they do not think Jill Price has a "photographic memory" or anything too special at all. they think that if everyone studied their life as thoroughly as Jill Price studies her's, they too would be able to recall autobiographical memories with great ease and accuracy. Ospring1234 (talk) 16:24, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the connection to OCD is necessary but should be justified by relevant details of her personal life. For example, Price has struggled with separation anxiety and has lived with her parents her entire life (50 years). Her condition should not be justified by "compulsively making journal and diary entries" but rather her obsession with and inability to let go of the past. She holds on to stuffed animals, wall paper from old houses, 50,000 pages of diary entries, 2,000 videotapes and audiotapes. The article implies that writing about your day every day could lead one to develop perfected autobiographical memory. Additionally, I agree that she is not narcissistically obsessed with herself--she both reminisces positive memories and dwells on regrets. This action, as mentioned above, creates retrieval practice and elaborative encoding, according to the author from WIRED . Devinrajan95 (talk) 01:00, 29 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The relevance of these facts urges this page to be accompanied by a "personal life" section. Kmdoiron and Ospring, just a suggestion: Perhaps, you can talk about memory distortions. How does Jill Price perform on tests like the DRM. It is interesting to know that she performs just as well as (not much better than) individuals with an average memory. Stephanie Parrado (talk) 19:00, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistency in wikipedia

The Hyperthymesia says "Twenty cases of hyperthymesia have been confirmed." I suggest leaving out the phrase with "one of six people" since it looks as though the number of confirmed cases is likely to keep increasing. 99.11.160.111 (talk) 12:44, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No longer in the article. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:23, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Speculation

I see a number of traits that Jill possesses that are reminiscent of Asperger's syndrome. Flat affect, her almost certainly having O.C.D., her augmented spatial ability which is likely the means through which she recalls dates, depression, her rage (especially that for Dr. Gary Marcus).

Being Jewish certainly predisposes one for the condition, and with women there is often an increase - not the decrease seen in men - in spatial ability.

I just had the same thought. Synaesthesia is common in people on the autism spectrum too, as well as unusual, savant-like skills and surprising abilities to memorise specific kinds of facts, such as birthdays. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 17:35, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Her brain

I remember reading an article somewhere that claimed that a certain part of her brain was much larger than usual causing her hyperthymesus. There's no mention of that in the article. Does anyone know the article so I can add the info? -throast 20:40, 15 October 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Throast (talk • contribs)