Talk:Jibba Jabber

Actual name

I'm pretty sure that the actual name is Jibber Jabber but only references will settle it. I'll dig mine out to see if it says the name on the tag. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 23:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Since references are hard to come by and this dialog states that the name is actually Jibber Jabber, it seems reasonable to go with that until better refs are found. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 15:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I own a few hundred of the dolls, most of them in their original boxes. The product name is Jibba Jabber, not Jibber Jabber. When I made the change last year it was based on concrete information. It amazes me that the name would be changed back to Jibber Jabber based on an editor being "pretty sure" after I'd corrected it. I am more than "pretty sure." I have not recorrected the name because I don't want to do it and have it changed back to the incorrect name again, though Wikipedia is perpetuating misinformation by leaving the name as "Jibber Jabber". I'm not a regular editor on Wikipedia & don't know the mechanics well at all. If someone can help me with instructions to upload an image, I'll happily take a picture of the product's original display box and provide it to you. Kawkawpa (talk) 14:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Since there are no sources to support either name except the link that I provided above (not a reliable source, by the way), there is no compelling reason to change the name. If you can find a source (besides your own word) that can clear up the name, please do provide it. My "pretty sure" was later supported by the link that I provided, so you can see that I did not pull this out of thin air. Additionally, I found that most of the ghits for the item were under the name Jibber Jabber and at the time of my change, most of the listings on Ebay were listed as Jibber Jabber (if not listed both ways). Keep in mind that it is a miracle that this article has not been deleted because it is marginally notable and provides no references to support its notability. If you have an image of the box, please upload it using the "upload file" link on the left of the screen. I'd love to see this resolved concretely. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 15:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't have the credentials to upload on Wikipedia, so I signed up for wikicommons and uploaded the images there. There are four images of the male doll in its box, showing each side of the box (front, back & each side). This is the revised version of the box with the stickers over the original pictures of the child's hand shaking the doll. In the original images, the child's hand was around the doll's neck. The stickers covering the original images show the child's hand around the doll's body. Here's a link explaining the change (see pages 135-136): http://www.ican-ncfr.org/documents/Nations-Shame.pdf.

In addition to the male Jibba Jabber, Ertl also produced "Ms Jibba Jabber" with a pink motif, including a skirt. That's the actual name of the female doll: "Ms Jibba Jabber". If you need a picture of the box, I'll have to wade into my storage closet to dig one out.

There is a specific limited range of color variation of hair, nose & ears of the dolls. I have detailed info on this if you want it.

Ertl produced two less well known full size Jibba Jabber dolls - a Jibba cat and a Jibba dog - I don't have the official names, but you can find pictures of them occasionally on eBay, in case you need confirmation that they exist.

A tie-in product was also produced: "Jibba Jabber Jr". These were smaller sized and were not plush dolls. They were all plastic. They came in themes like a rock star ("JibbaRock"), policeman, etc. I have some images downloaded from eBay but as you know we're not supposed to download eBay images so they're not useable for wikipedia.

The only other Jibba Jabber tie-in that I'm aware of is a Jibba Jabber keychain - maybe two inches or so tall.

That's about it for now. Somewhere I also have info on how the dolls have been used by professionals (health care or educators) who work with children. I'll dig it up if you have an interest.

Thanks. Hope Wikipedia keeps the article. It certainly would help to have a legitimate place to send folks for correct information on the product.

Kawkawpa (talk) 01:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

That's great. I've changed the names and moved the article. You seem to know a lot about this. Unfortunately, if we don't have sources, we can't use what would be your original research in the article. But, if you have information that can be verified by printing on the boxes or other product literature, that should be ok. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 02:01, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll see what I can pull together that's verifiable by sources other than my own original research. Will get back to you. I had to do such original research because there's zero info from the manufacturer or established toy/doll researchers available on the Web. Kawkawpa (talk) 14:50, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Source

This was removed from the article as needing a page number

• US Dept of Health and Human Services bulletin on fatal child abuse

ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Restored ref with page number. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 11:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

And now brought into the article and referenced with a template. Drmies (talk) 14:41, 13 August 2009 (UTC)