Talk:Jewish quarter (Barcelona)

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A fact from Jewish quarter (Barcelona) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 March 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Ancient Synagogue in the Jewish quarter of Barcelona is one of the oldest synagogues in Europe?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jewish quarter (Barcelona).

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 10:00, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Ancient Synagogue in the Jewish quarter of Barcelona is one of the oldest synagogues in Europe? Source: https://boulderjewishnews.org/2018/old-synagogue-barcelona/
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Created by Longhornsg (talk). Self-nominated at 04:39, 2 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jewish quarter (Barcelona), so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Article is new enough, long enough, and neutral. QPQ not necessary as one of the nominator's first submissions. A few things: The hook is interesting, but the Jerusalem Post article linked here is not cited in the article. There's also are several unsourced paragraphs in the "Pogroms and Inquisition" section. Additionally I'm doubtful of the reliability of the Jewish Segovia source for our purposes—it looks like a self-published blog. Is there any scholarly sources we can use in its place? DigitalIceAge (talk) 02:55, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Longhornsg: status report? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 06:57, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Theleekycauldron: and @DigitalIceAge: Have updated sourcing per the feedback above! Longhornsg (talk) 16:53, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Longhornsg: Looking much better, thanks! DigitalIceAge (talk) 04:44, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Longhornsg and DigitalIceAge: I've added the words "may be" to the hook, as the claim is disputable. It isn't known when the building first began to be used as a synagogue, and the Synagogue of Santa María la Blanca also makes claim to be the oldest (see eg. [1]). "One of the oldest in Europe" is safe enough, but I'd note that this isn't technically supported by the sources, which both assert (incorrectly) that it is the oldest in Europe. This latter is only a minor point for me, though, and I don't think the hook needs re-reviewing unless either of you object to my changes. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 06:04, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Good catch, judging whether something is the 'first' can be fraught with confusion, so this is a good middle ground. DigitalIceAge (talk) 18:55, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Longhornsg and DigitalIceAge: I see that the original hook has been modified, but what the article says about the claims made in the hook doesn't quite match. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:13, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Cielquiparle, DigitalIceAge, and Sojourner in the earth: Thanks very much for working through this to make sure we accurately reflect the facts. I've reworded the hook to accurately reflect the uncertainty about the Ancient Synagogue's absolute ranking among the oldest synagogues in Europe, replaced the original source with one that directly supports the wording of the hook, and added this source to the original article. Longhornsg (talk) 00:02, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that, I should've reviewed the article after the modification of the hook. Both current revisions read fine now. DigitalIceAge (talk) 00:04, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]