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Seems like standard biographical material

Some fairly standard biographical material was recently removed from the section on his relationship with Obama. See here. The removed material is as follows:

Wright served as both a role model and a spiritual mentor for Obama, and the senator would check with Wright prior to making any bold political moves.[1] According to the Reverend Jim Wallis, who is a leader of the religious left, "If you want to understand where Barack gets his feeling and rhetoric from, just look at Jeremiah Wright."[2]

[1] Brachear, Manya (January, 21, 2007). "Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr.: Pastor inspires Obama's 'audacity'". Chicago Tribune. Retrieved on 2008-03-23.

[2] Dilanian, Ken. “Fact check: What was said at Pa. Debate”, USA Today (2008-04-17).

The first footnoted sources says: "In Wright he had found both a spiritual mentor and a role model....Though Wright and Obama do not often talk one-on-one often, the senator does check with his pastor before making any bold political moves."

The second footnoted source says that writer Benjamin Wallace-Wells "quoted Jim Wallis, a leader of the religious left, as saying, 'If you want to understand where Barack gets his feeling and rhetoric from, just look at Jeremiah Wright.'"

So, it seems like the removed material was very much supported by the cited reliable sources. I don't see any problem with this material, so I'll reinsert it. Please explain here at the talk page if there is any problem.Ferrylodge (talk) 23:26, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone seems determined to sabotage this article. No doubt either the CIA or apologists for Barack Obama.JohnC (talk) 01:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Them Jews" versus Jeremiah Wright

This whole paragraph of information seems to me to belong in the page for the controversy and not here. The Squicks (talk) 23:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's a very bad idea. It doesn't take up a lot of room. Should it, at some future point, mushroom into something greater, perhaps some can be broken off into the daughter article. For now, it's fine. I also think you've chosen a strange header for this section, maybe you could think of something better. IronDuke 23:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Better? The Squicks (talk) 02:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe... you still have misspelled two words -- "versus" and "Jeremiah" -- but I'm also not sure the emphasis is quite on. I'm not sure even Wright thinks, now, that it is himself versus "Them Jews." IronDuke 04:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was a Kinsley Gaffe. Also... fixed. The Squicks (talk) 06:42, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. IronDuke 16:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The idea that favorable stuff belongs on this page and unfavorable stuff belongs on some other page is hardly NPOV. Kauffner (talk) 00:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of favorable stuff, I found Amos Brown defending Wright here: is this usable? Is Brown notable enough? Thoughts? IronDuke 01:47, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Who the heck is Amos Brown? The Squicks (talk) 02:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Andy's brother. Surprisingly, Amos is the Jew. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.225 (talk) 09:52, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Read the article linked above. IronDuke 04:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talk continued here. -DePiep (talk) 19:00, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Material about racism conference

I removed the part about promoting anti semitism, the citation says it turn into a anti Jewish free for all? Anyways, --Tom

Talk continued here. -DePiep (talk) 19:00, 18 June 2009 (UTC) +(linkfixes) -DePiep (talk) 19:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

why no picture of him and Obama?

so we have a picture of Wright and Clinton, Wright and Johnson, but none with him and Obama. Obama is Wright's claim to national fame, as in people all around America, white and black, young and old, know who this loon is?67.243.9.128 (talk) 04:28, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think you may not understand the propose of wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.215.150 (talk) 15:02, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Something to add

Shouldn't there be a mention of his "The Italians killed Jesus," "Jesus was a poor, black man who lived in a country and who lived in a culture that was controlled by rich, white people," "The Romans were white, the Romans were Italian, which means they were European, which means they were white and the Roman's ran everything in Jesus' country" and "Hilary ain't never been called a nigger" quotes under 'Controversies unfolding in the 2008 election and Obama Administration?' --TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:46, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Megachurch?

Calling TUCC a megachurch in the lead seems a little strange to me. It does fit the strict numerical definition of a megachurch (over 2000 people attending services), but is otherwise doesn't have any of the characteristics that come to mind when I think of a megachurch. The 2000 person criteria used in the Wikipedia megachurch article cites this source: http://hirr.hartsem.edu/megachurch/definition.html. Additional characters common to megachurchs as presented there include "conservative theology", suburban location, often non-denominational, "evangelical", and Protestant (Catholic churches are explicitly excluded). Defining "megachurch" is a little fuzzy, and I don't know what TUCC's theology is like personally, but I suspect it doesn't have much in common with the majority of churches in the "megachurch movement". I'm going to change "megachurch" in the lead to "large church"Plantdrew (talk) 01:15, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And now that I've reread the lead, I'm not sure if TUCC even qualifies as a megachurch in a numeric sense. 6000 members does not mean 6000 people attend services weekly. I wouldn't be surprised if attendance is under 2000.Plantdrew (talk) 01:19, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Vietnam War service

Although Wright served in the Navy during the Vietnam War era, there are no reliable sources found as of yet state that he was in a war zone during the war. More specifically, the sources do not establish defining role in the Vietnam War. Accordingly, "Category:United States navy personnel of the Vietnam War" was removed until a defining role is established. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 13:01, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The rapture

How do you explain whole civilization's going missing without a trace. Has the rapture already happened ? 174.208.169.26 (talk) 22:28, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]