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On 1 August 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved to Jaunpur. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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I have made some changes to improve the spelling, but this page really needs to be totally rewritten.

Origins of the Name Jaunpur

City of Jaunpur was founded by the Firuz Shah Tughluq of Tughlaq dynasty , In the begning it was called Firozabaad like many other cities founded by him but later it was changed to JaunPur; Jaun was the birth Name of Muhhamad Bin Tughluq. ^[1] .Someone with insight into history of this region should confirm and update the article. Thanks --Rahulsahgal 18:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Keay, John. India A History. ISBN 0-00-638784-5.

Syed Mohammed Nawab

Following info is being inserted on the article page:

A well known person in the world, as a World Champion in (Non stop) Endurance Cycling 175 Hrs. record held in Ethiopia 1964, (Guinness Book of World record Edition 1964 to 1978 Paje2 21 Human Achievement)

Mr.Syed Mohammed Nawab also publish News paper TEESRI DUNIYA in the year 1980 another one News Paper "PUBLIC BOLTA HAI" a English weekly TABLOID HUMAN RIGHT CAUSES, Contested a election in 1982 from S/E Bombay on Congress (I) ticket, Mr. Syed Mohammed Nawab Nawab, Also President of so many social organization in Mumbai,

SOCIETY FOR WELFARE & PROTECTION OF OVEARSEAS EMPLOYMENT (SWAPO)
NATIONAL ACTION COMMITTEE FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE (NACSO)
MUSLIM WELKFARE TRUST FUND OF INDIA (MWTFI)
RIGHT PATH OF ISLAM ASSOCIATION (R.P.I.Assn.)

Syed Mohammed Nawab born in Khawaja dost, Jaunpur, Nawab & family migrate to Purani Bazar. IN THE YEAR OF 1960.

--Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider^tc_s 10:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Need of rewriting the whole article again

The content of the article has been damaged to such an extent that no more patch work can make things write.I am saying this becase

Non Standard material and language has been used.
Nither citation or references has been provided.

I am considering writing this article again. For next 15 days i will be open for discussion and after that process of rewriting the article might begin.

If you have any suggestions or want to collaborate on the article please talk with me.

Razredg (talk) 22:39, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Population

German article says "170.000"---that's versus this article's 4.5 million. What the heck? That's a monumental discrepancy. (And what about that "Jaunchu, a milk based sweet delicacy is a popular dish in Jaunpur area of Uttar Pradesh"? Can't even find a picture for that on the net.)---178.199.97.81 (talk) 15:35, 5 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

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Currently, this page contains a lot of info about the districts, but those things must move to district page. For example, a city page cannot list down the villages under the district of the same name. Thanks. --GDibyendu (talk) 13:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 13:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 19:36, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 1 August 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jack Frost (talk) 04:02, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jaunpur, Uttar Pradesh → Jaunpur
Jaunpur → Jaunpur (disambiguation)

– I had originally placed this as an uncontroversial technical request, which was contested by User:Uanfala, who said that this was not uncontroversial and suggested a conventional RM instead. They are most certainly right, so I'm proposing this RM so that people can discuss it and determine what's best.

Here was my original reasoning:

The city is the clear primary topic for the name "Jaunpur", which is currently a disambiguation page: Jaunpur district and Jaunpur Sultanate are both named after the city, while Jaunpur, Uttarakhand is currently a redlink.

Uanfala also presented the following counterargument:

As for Jaunpur specifically, one suggestion against a primary topic comes from the clickstream data, which shows that just at most one half of readers who land on the dab page end up clicking through to the article about the city. The precise figures for March (the last month for which I've got easily accessible data), are 52 for that city, 32 for the sultanate, and 10 each for its district and for Tehri Garhwal (the two constituencies don't figure here, which means they've received fewer than 10 hits each).

3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 17:53, 1 August 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Vpab15 (talk) 22:11, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The status quo is good. The proposal fails PRECISE. The proposal reduces recognisability, and brings no advantages. SmokeyJoe (talk) 14:05, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support The city appears to be the primary topic, and it would benefit readers to have Jaunpur link here, with the other articles like the surrounding district and historical sultanate named after the city available through hatnotes. As similar examples, we have Baghdad despite the surrounding Baghdad Governorate, or Mumbai despite the existence of the Mumbai Metropolitan Region.--Yaksar (let's chat) 16:59, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- This is different from Baghdad or Mumbai: Jaunpur district contains not just the metropolitan region, but an extensive hinterland of several hundred towns and villages, whose combined population dwarves that of the city. Still, that's not in itself the reason for the current topic structure: this situation is common for districts in India and yet in most cases the city continues to be taken as the primary topic over the eponymous district. What's different here is that the name also applies to a historic princely state and to another, unrelated, region. – Uanfala (talk) 22:48, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I would suggest Jaunpur City or another title if desired, but the district has something like 20 times the population of the city. This ain't even close. Red Slash 20:01, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I wouldn't consider the district a strong reason not to move - districts are often named after eponymous cities, and we don't need to disambiguate the city, for example Lhasa, which is a small part of Lhasa (prefecture-level city). But in this case, as Uanfala mentions, there's the matter of the sultanate, which seems to attract quite a few readers from the dab page. So I guess the status quo will do. — Amakuru (talk) 01:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The Atala Mosque and the Jama Mosque

Are these two mosques actually the same building, or are they separate in the same complex, if they are the same building then the two articles need merging? If they are not, then the three articles need some clarification written into them... Comments and advice please... Broichmore (talk) 15:52, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Both articles had the same map co-ordinates, which I have now corrected. There are two Jama mosques in town.[Google map link] showing the correct locations. !1km apart. Broichmore (talk) 11:35, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[John_keay-1] Keay, John. India A History. ISBN 0-00-638784-5.

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