Talk:Jarome Iginla/Archive 1

Archive 1

Conn Smythe

I've removed the puzzling reference to Iginla being a favourite for the Conn Smythe Trophy in 2002 -- the Flames didn't make the playoffs and so any reference to the Conn Smythe is irrelevant. Perhaps the originating author meant another trophy (Hart? I don't remembember...) cucumberslumber 23:41, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Black Winter Olympic Gold Medal winners

I would want to do some (unoriginal) research before putting this in the main article— but I think Iginla is the first Black to win a gold medal in the Olympic Winter Games, when he led the Canadian team in 2002. There have been some noteable figure and speed skaters of color, but I think he was the first to win the gold. The article for Shani Davis, the American speed skater, says Davis was the first Black to win an individual gold medal in 2006, and the fifth to win any medal. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 02:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

i changed the "lead the nhl goals" to "lead the nhl in goals" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.242.183.27 (talk) 03:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Iginla the first black captain??

Oh, what about Dirk Graham? he had Afro bloodlines. GoodDay (talk) 00:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

I'm providing a review of this article at the request of User:Resolute.

• The lead says he's the NHL's first black captain, but the body says that Dirk Graham may have been.

• I think it comes down to definition more than anything. I'll have to consider this statement before FAC

• I think the second paragraph of the lead makes rather too great a leap in going straight from his junior stardom to his winning the NHL's scoring race. Perhaps some of the stuff in the first paragraph about his being drafted by the Stars and traded to the Flames could go there?

• Hmmm, good point. Moved

• I've rearranged the whole bit about race (I thought it was important to talk about his admiration for Fuhr before mentioning that he'd started off in net), and in so doing removed a quote that was hard to fit in and which I didn't think added much.

• No worries, thanks!

More later. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 20:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

• "...as being similar to "putting on the [Montreal] Canadiens'." I'm not clear on what this means.

• He was referring to the tradition of winning Kamloops had at the time being similar to that of Montreal. I will consider how to clarify.

• "...entering the 1999–00 season." There's probably something about it in the MOS (I'm not checking; there be demons), but "1999-2000" seems much more natural to me.

• This is a personal pet peeve of mine. There is a very silly belief out there that while everyone understands what 1998-99 means, and what 2000-01 means, everyone somehow figures that 1999-00 means "1999-1900". I tend to give people a lot more credit than this argument does, however since it is going to come up again, I will reword the statement to exclude the two-year season format so as not to make it out of line with every other season link.

• "...he purchased his own insurance..." I assume this has something to do with insuring himself for lost earnings in the event of an injury (when normally he'd continue earning a paycheque if he was under contract), but it needs some elaboration.

• you are correct, and I will elaborate.

More later. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 02:58, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Resolute 04:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Hart Controversy details

So I happen to have a book that mentions Iginla losing the Hart in 2002. I'll let Resolute add it however he sees fit, but I'll give the details and source here:

• Both Iginla and Theodore were tied in voting points with 434.
• Theodore won based on first-place votes; he had 26, Iginla, 23.
• It was rumoured at least one writer left Iginla off the ballot. Obviously had he been on it, Iginla would have won. (All these are on page 20)

• Not related, but in this book as well and worth noting: it was Elvis who suggested that Jarome donate money for every goal he scored. (p. 29)

The book information:

Harris, Cecil. Breaking the Ice: The Black Experience in Professional Hockey. Toronto: Insomniac Press (2003). ISBN=1-894663-58-6. Kaiser matias (talk) 04:52, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, and the rumour is that a Montreal writer left him off, creating an obvious conspiracy theory. I think this article is ready for FAC, but this small tidbit is one of the things I want to add. I'll be checking the book out tomorrow, thanks! Resolute 18:58, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

2010 Olympics

I believe Iginla's hat-trick was taken away, vs Norway. GoodDay (talk) 16:44, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

It seems everybody but Olympic officials know that Iginla tipped that goal in for the hat trick, but the official might still read two goals. For the most part, I am just going to let everyone edit the section as desired, then perform any necessary cleanup after the games are over.

• after reviews of the goal he was given the hat trick —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.210.7.234 (talk) 23:31, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

ART ROSS TROPHY 2002

Iginla did not win the Art Ross in 2002. As a matter of fact, he's never won an Art Ross Trophy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.244.51.17 (talk) 17:30, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes he did. Maybe your thinking of the Hart, but check for yourself if you don't believe me. Art Ross Trophy winners till 2008 on NHL.com--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 17:47, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

suggestion for when describing Iginla's feats (milestones), we try to keep consistant details to describe the event, example if so and so scored his which ever milestone goal, we add who against (team goalie), result of game. -Samcat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samsamcat (talk • contribs) 08:27, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism

This arcticle needs more protection for the following reason A: It is unprotected so anyone can vandilize it B: Because of A, it is an easy target for racism Calgaryivan (talk) 20:22, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Not done: requests for changes to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. NiciVampireHeart 20:37, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

The article is well watched, and despite getting 30,000 pageviews a month during the season, actually suffers very little vandalism. We watch for that stuff, and revert or delete fairly quickly. But thank you for your conern. Resolute 20:41, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Changes due to Trade

Now that Iginla has been traded to the Penguins, a few lines need to be altered. For example, in the third paragraph, it states that "He was selected 11th overall by the Dallas Stars in the 1995 NHL Entry Draft, but was later traded to Calgary and has played his entire professional career with the Flames." This should be changed to, for example, "He was selected 11th overall by the Dallas Stars in the 1995 NHL Entry Draft, but was later traded to Calgary where he played the first 17 seasons of his career." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Boutros (talk • contribs) 17:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Move to Penguins

Why is the sentence about Iginla moving to the Pens better suited to Milestones than NHL career, where it was originally added? All the milestones are about stats. Platypusjones (talk) 17:57, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

It's all part of the chronological order, both Captaincy and Milestones are subdivisions of the NHL career section. For instance the first line of the "Milestones" section states "The Flames struggled in 2009–10, failing to qualify for the playoffs for the first time since 2003" which has nothing to do with a Milestone. The last year discussed before the subdivision sections in NHL Career is 2002-03. Eventually a subsection called Pittsburgh Penguins or Post-Flames (depending on what happens after this season) will probably be added. One sentence does not need it's own section.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 18:57, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

No, but I will be starting a new subsection for all that transpired, so give me a little bit of time, Platypusjones! Resolute 21:57, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

this whole article seems pretty biased to the point of being written by unabashed fans, hopefully in the trade section some mention is made of the controversy and the fact that there are questions of where the dishonesty took place and by whom — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.17.191.117 (talk) 05:05, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

also, there at least appears to be some that think that tampering is a possibility to consider, read this article about Don Cherry's comments... http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/story/2013/03/30/sp-nhl-coachs-corner-hockey-night.html

. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.17.191.117 (talk) 05:09, 1 April 2013 (UTC)