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shouldn't this

article be called "Modern Japanese painting"? Johnbod 01:40, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is meant to cover all of Japanese painting. It just needs expansion. LordAmeth 12:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- You can say that again! There should also be an overview article on Japanese printmaking Johnbod 21:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article has now been considerably expanded. --MChew 06:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese translation

The Japanese word that means "Japanese painting" is "nihonga". It's in kanji. --PJ Pete

Actually, this article is on a much broader topic. Not all painting done in Japan or by Japanese is nihonga. There are a great many styles and schools that do not fall under that particular category. LordAmeth 09:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

European influence

European influence started in the 1500s not the 19th century as the first paragraph claims. Japanese learned linear perspective and shading in the later 1500s from European paintings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:558:6031:4F:6D07:E3AF:A9AD:4C43 (talk) 22:46, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Changed paragraph to reflect this. It's still uncited; but that goes for almost everything in the article. It's now consistent with the Yōga (art) article - which is also uncited but fits what little I know of early Western influence on Japanese art. Haploidavey (talk) 23:55, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted; it says "significant" influence - the Japanese were aware of Western linear perspective but famously made only limited use of it before the late 19th century. If you mean "shading" in its normal and general sense, that had been very significant in Chinese art for centuries before the West used it much. Johnbod (talk) 03:39, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Starting point for a fuller examination here - on a quick view I think the current (old) version still seems ok. Johnbod (talk) 16:13, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it seems to be sound, and sufficient detail for an introduction. Haploidavey (talk) 16:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you mean by normal and general sense of shading, Johnbod. Shading technique learned from European art significantly changed East Asian art from the 16th century onward. You can see that in the painting at the top of the page of Plum tree by Kanō Sanraku. The shading of the rocks, trees and landscape was new learned from European art. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:558:6031:4F:6D07:E3AF:A9AD:4C43 (talk) 05:26, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Expertise Needed

The article appears to me to be extremely spare and lacking in detail as well as examples. Someone with some background in Japanese art/culture should fill in the gaps because as it stands the article is poor and in need of being fleshed out more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.189.187.4 (talk) 20:29, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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