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Atomic bombs 'saved lives'

"If Hiroshima and Nagasaki have a positive side, it is that many lives were saved on both sides by the surrender of Japan before an invasion of the Japanese mainland was carried out."

The above sentence represents a very old fasioned, even contemporaneous, view of the use of atomic weapons. Historiography of the past fifty years has shown what little truth there is in this theory. Therefore, I am removing it. Zackery the Fence (talk) 12:26, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you've not seen this page: Debate over the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The debate continues vigorously today. Binksternet (talk) 14:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That link is precisely the reason why that section is preposterous. It offers an entirely one-sided account and then just throws in that link at the end. I'd like to see somebody rewrite that section so it merely states what happened (bombs dropped, Japan surrenders) without turning it into an attempt at justifying anything. Leave that to the linked article. Midnight Bliss (talk) 03:07, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar and surrender

I'm no expert when it comes to grammar, but the very title of this article does not seem right. Surely "Japanese Campaign" is more correct, but then that doesn't sound right as far as the subject matter in the article is concerned. Has anyone got any ideas for a less clumsy title ?

I've changed 'September' to 'August' in the intro, because the Japanese did surrender in August, (on the 14th), see The Storm of War (ISBN 978-0-713-99970-9) by Andrew Roberts, 2009, page 577, para 2. True, the surrender was not formally signed until 2nd September, but as the old saying goes: "It was all over (in August), bar the shouting" ).
RASAM (talk) 22:20, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inadequate Article

This article is woefully inadequate. It completely fails to recognize the major role of the US Navy in winning and ending the war. The navy blockaded Japan. From the end of the suicide expedition of the Yamato to Okinawa on 7 April 1945 to the surrender on 14 August, more than four whole month passed during which the Japanese navy was unable to do anything, mainly for lack of fuel. This was because of the US naval blockade which developed after Okinawa. The US continually beat up on Japan, while Japan could do nothing. US submarines and mines, primarily, which are barely mentioned in the article, completely blocked all ships moving in and out of Japan, increasingly as time passed. This had already strangled Japan from the standpoint of fuel and would shortly have done so with respect to food as well, so Japan could have just been starved out, without any US casualties at all. American battleships even were blasting away at the Japanese coast while the Japanese could not retaliate at all. The navy knew it had won the war and that no further effort was necessary. The problem was, when the USSR was going to get into it, that the US planners looked on every Soviet advance as a loss for their own side, despite the Soviets being allies. The US leadership was especially alarmed when Stalin started stating an intention to occupy Hokkaido, thereby dividing Japan like Germany, so the US wanted Japan to surrender faster. The Japanese were equally alarmed at the prospective division of their country, so they caved at that point, atomic bombs or no. Anyway, the role of the US Navy in the Japan Campaign, a fact which no one can dispute at all, well documented, for example, in the massive fifteen-volume work by Samuel Elliot Morison, is badly overlooked in this article and ought to be rectified.LCalpurniusPiso (talk) 01:09, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to change it. We encourage you to be bold in updating pages, since wikis like ours develop faster when everybody edits. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. You can always preview your edits before you publish them or test them out in the sandbox. If you need additional help, check out our getting started page or ask the friendly folks at the Teahouse. Nick-D (talk) 07:36, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]