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Bosworth and support for Albany

This reads a bit oddly 'At the Battle of Bosworth in August 1485 Albany's last remaining support, Richard III, perished.' The issue is Bosworth took place on 22 August 1485, but Albany's article indicates he died on 7 August 1485, so any support for him by Bosworth was surely moot. Dunarc (talk) 19:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What about Spence?

James Redding Ware writes in his Victorian slang book “Passing English”:

Bell the Cat ( Peoples').

To risk the lead. Still used without any real knowledge of its origin, but with thorough comprehension of its applica- tion, e.g., 'Yes, but who'll tell him she's no good who'll bell the cat? Some of us know he's got a bunch of fives.'

The proverb is of Scottish origin, and was thus occasioned : The Scottish nobility entered into a combination against a person of the name of Spence, the favourite of King James III. It was proposed to go in a body to Stirling to seize Spence and hang him ; then to offer their services to the king, as his natural counsellors ; upon which the Lord Gray observed, ' It is well said, but who will bell the cat ? ' alluding to the fable of the mice, who proposed to put a bell round the cat's neck, that they might be apprized of her coming. The Earl of Angus replied that he would bell the cat : which he accordingly did, and was ever after called Archibald Bell-Cat.

Who is Spence? 2A00:23C7:E284:CF00:E85C:EF6:CAB1:B338 (talk) 13:24, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Image

It is clear that there is dispute with very little discussion about the infobox image. It seems to have been going on, one way or another, since at least the end of October. I suggest that Excommunicato, you revert your own edit from this morning and start a discussion here (forget the edit summaries; in a dispute they are an awful way to discuss), in this section of the talk page. I am also pinging Orson12345, 79.155.33.91, HefePine23, and Dancingtudorqueen, who have all participated in this slow-moving edit war. Talk about it, and decide together which is the best image and why. Don't change the image again (apart from Excommunicato's revert, which i really hope happens) until a decision has been concluded. Happy days ~ Lindsay^Hello 15:57, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I personally like the image they put but I think it was inappropriate to put it there without discussing the change on the talk page. Thank you for initiating this I think a talk would be more appropriate. And I apologize for my part in this. Orson12345 (talk) 16:59, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the new image is a better depiction simply because it is a contemporary work of art, with an aproximate date of creation known (circa 1480, James III died 1488), while the previous portrait was painted, at least, about a century after his lifetime, and therefore cannot represent his real appearence. Excommunicato (talk) 18:31, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]