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The filmography should end with Giant (1956), not The Disaster Artist (2017). The latter addition is misleading and misrepresents the actor’s filmography as it wasn’t a film he acted in when he was alive. The inclusion of said film is ahistorical, irresponsible, and inappropriate for a Wikipedia filmography. 2603:8001:9F03:51D8:2555:41CC:43BE:ADB9 (talk) 07:05, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Lightoil (talk) 07:44, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

People have frequently tried to add inappropriate mentions of films in which James Dean did not act to this section, including a film in which there was a CGI simulation of the actor. It always gets me when commenters here write as if there is only one author of this article rather than over 2400 who have made edits to it, an author that they sometimes seem to imagine had some nefarious and malicious intent to deceive the reading public, a laughable idea. It's a job just to keep up with every single edit made over the years. Carlstak (talk) 14:17, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t know if you’re referring to my suggestion above, but I was only explaining the reason why the change should be made, justifying it, since I don’t have editing access to this locked article. I don’t see how what I wrote suggests a belief on my part that there is one author responsible for this or any Wikipedia article, or that a certain prior inclusion was there for nefarious, deceptive reasons. Try not to always let it get to you. 2603:8001:9F03:51D8:2555:41CC:43BE:ADB9 (talk) 15:21, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not directed against you personally, but your use of the words "ahistorical, irresponsible, and inappropriate" might lead someone to believe you thought that. There have been a lot of comments here written in a similar accusatory tone that were completely unfounded; there was even, for example, a press coverage link here to a dishonest Mubi article from 2018 written by a writer who wrote falsely:

"I had thought that the culture had moved on to a public understanding that James Dean was, at the very least, sexually ambiguous, but Wikipedia contents itself with listing his girlfriends and mentioning that he was presented by studios as an "eligible bachelor" along with stars like Rock Hudson and Tab Hunter (both of whom were gay). This dissembling shows that we have—we must have—a heavily distorted understanding of the impact of queer people on cinema, and of the legacy that their queerness has had throughout the ages."

when at the time there was an entire section in the article discussing Dean's ambivalent sexuality, just as there is now.

I find them more amusing than anything else, although that one did rankle a bit, and it is a pain in the ass to respond to such accusations.;-) Carlstak (talk) 18:08, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Maila Nurmi

According to Maila Nurmi (also known as Vampira) she and Dean were close friends in early 1950's. More information for example in Vampira biography by Sandra Niemi. 91.154.226.220 (talk) 11:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maila Nurmi does deserve a mention in the article. She and Dean were friends, and used to hang out at Googie's Coffee Shop in LA, although she exaggerated how close their friendship was. I will add a brief mention of her with a reliable source (there are several) when I have time. Thanks for bringing this up. Carlstak (talk) 12:02, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gay/Bi/SM

Are we just lying about his sexuality now? So many glaring omissions! 2A00:23C8:3413:6701:85D3:1CD1:2322:6F9F (talk) 18:13, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]