Talk:Jacob (name)

Merge?

Disagree- don't agree; although the names have common etymology they have diverged and taken a strong life of their own. Link yes merge no! :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 09:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agree- I think it should be merged, their way hasn't been that apart. By the way, I think there's a name missing in Portugal's list. Diogo, is also a form of Tiago and Jacob. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Totava (talk • contribs) 14:33, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- I'm going to agree with this. Although we don't call people who are named James "Jacob" and vice versa, they mean the same thing and have the same root in the same culture and language. There should be a few main sections, but one article including both names and perhaps a history of the names and how even though they are different, they are related. Dcs315 (talk) 08:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the names are related but distinct, like a multitude of other names that have their own article. Discussion is also at at Talk:James (name), which has 4 Opposes, zero supports. - Draeco (talk) 05:43, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - in English usage they are two completely different names - see baptism registers where parents use them for different children. Motmit (talk) 10:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Per above, this is in the English Encyclopedia --Climax Void ☭. —Preceding comment was added at 17:56, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

opposeThe names Jacob and James are not the same.I think you could make a mention of it in the articles, but it is not a good idea to merge them. Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Userboxes 17:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose they are related, but different, names. Much easier (for maintenance), and clearer (for the reader), to keep them separate. Obviously, they should still link to each other. --NSH001 (talk) 10:03, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. They are etymologically the same name but for every day puposes they are different names (if that makes sense!).However, there needs to be a good explanation of the links between the names.--Trounce (talk) 11:16, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The link between Jacob and James needs to be explained

As I understand it Jacob and James are the same name (etymologically speaking). Just as Yeshua and Jesus are the same name.Jacob became transliterated and latinized as Iacomus (Jacomus) just as Jesus is the transliteration/latinization of Yeshua. Somehow Jacomus became anglicized to James. It would be great if someone could fill in the reasons why that happened.

I could be wrong on this but, that would mean that St. James of the New Testament could correctly be called Jacob.Could the source of the split in the names originate in the translating of the New Testament???

It is interesting to note that the "adjective" (not sure if that's the correct term) for James is Jacobean. For example the reign of King James is known as the Jacobean era. This shows the etymological link--Trounce (talk) 11:16, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am going to post my replies to this topic on the Talk:James (name) page here --Trounce (talk) 12:12, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jacob is not derieved from the Latin, Greek, AND Hebrew

All three languages did not independently come up with Jacob. One of them is the first which was then adapted into the other and the other. This distinction needs to be made clear.24.190.34.219 (talk) 19:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nicknames different section than variations?

144.131.87.3 (talk) removed the following text

English – Jacob, James, Jim (dim.), Jimmy (dim.), Jack (dim.), Jackie (dim.), Jake (dim.), Jakey (dim.), Jakeb, Coby (dim.)

While I am not 100% sure that all of those are direct nicknames of Jacob, I know that Jakey and Coby are both nicknames of Jacob. In addition, there is no documented reason for the removal of these nicknames; that I could see.

My question is, why is there not a section for verified nicknames of Jacob? I know the Joseph (name) has a section just for nicknames of Joseph, which would probably be beneficial in this case as well. I would be up for making a new section and finding associated nicknames when I can figure out exactly how to do that. I am new, my apologies. Unless someone can explain why these names were removed, I would like to see them returned. Juvenile1178 (talk) 10:03, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, do it. - Draeco (talk) 16:36, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I need help knowing which is a variation and which is a nickname in other languages if people can help with that, it would be greatly appreciated. Juvenile1178 (talk) 09:39, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Too Many Jacobs

There is a "Jacob (given name)" in Wikipedia also. That entry should be either combined with this one or deleted. I vote to delete that errant entry. Dangnad (talk) 03:40, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Jacob (given name)

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