Talk:Jackie (Elisa Fiorillo song)

REDZONE VERSION!

In 1998, a version was released by an artist under the alias "redzone". I recall (although my memory is hazy) the video clip featured strobes and a 'rave-like' atmosphere. Since there was simultaneous release of both versions (i think), I believe 'redzone' should get a mention in this article.

does anyone have any additional information regarding the connection between 'jackie' and 'redzone', and a seeming link between 'redzone' and 'bluezone'? 203.164.56.43 12:42, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

yes, me again six months later. Maybe the version under the 'redzone' alias could be a club (redzone) mix? please can someone verify? 203.164.55.205 22:04, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Elisa Fiorillo original version

Blue Zone were not the originators of this song. It was originally recorded by Elisa Fiorillo in 1987 for the soundtrack to the film "Summer School" and produced by the writers Steinberg & Kelly. Blue Zone's 1988 version was a fairly faithful cover of this original. Just thought it should be mentioned somewhere! See http://www.discogs.com/release/519182 Rmarble 19:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 22 December 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 22:59, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jackie (Elisa Fiorillo song) → Jackie (Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly song) – The original version by Elisa Fiorillo neither was successful nor did chart nor was released as a single. Should use songwriters' names instead if no one minds the length of the proposed title. Alternatively, Jackie (Blue Zone song) can be used, but the version also was less successful than later versions in Australasia. George Ho (talk) 04:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Jerm (talk) 00:32, 30 December 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. -- Aervanath (talk) 03:19, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:SONGDAB:"Use the name of the performer who first performed the song." This can sometimes lead to a title that is a bit surprising (see for example 1985 (SR-71 song)), but that's the ~~policy~~ guideline. 162 etc. (talk) 17:36, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's a guideline, not policy, and as a guideline, an exception and common sense can be used. How about either "(Summer School song)" or "(1987 song)"? --George Ho (talk) 18:26, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Updated my response above. My opposition to the move is unchanged. 162 etc. (talk) 18:31, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination and comment by George Ho. There are numerous main title headers that disambiguate song titles via composers' and lyricists' names — Alfie (Burt Bacharach song), Always (Irving Berlin song), As Long as I Live (Harold Arlen and Ted Koehler song), Guilty (Richard Whiting, Harry Akst and Gus Kahn song), Lorelei (George Gershwin song), Make Believe (Jerome Kern song), Oh Baby (Walter Donaldson song), Moments Like This (Frank Loesser and Burton Lane song), Our Kind of Love (Andrew Lloyd Webber song) and Out of This World (Johnny Mercer song), to name but ten, none of which is a song by a singer-songwriter who performs his own songs. Much more WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS at Category:Songs by composer and Category:Songs by lyricist. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:56, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment and alternate proposal. The only ambiguity is with Jackie (Jacques Brel song), which was originally released as "Jacky". Per WP:SONGDAB, Jackie (song) and Jacky (song) should be sufficiently unambiguous titles. 162 etc. (talk) 17:49, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
~~Unsure whether the "y" and "ie" would suffice, but no objections to the alternative.~~ What do you think, Roman? --George Ho (talk) 21:02, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Wait. I wasn't sure whether the pinging I did was against the rules, but... Anyways, I just realized that the other song was also titled "Jackie" in English language. Changed to opposing the alternative suggested by 162. --George Ho (talk) 21:09, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Taking into account that Jackie (Jacques Brel song) is the alternative title of Jacky (Jacques Brel song) and redirects to it, I see no option other to continue support per nomination. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:23, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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