Talk:Isaiah Thomas (basketball)

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Requested move 4 May 2015

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The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 18:29, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Isaiah Thomas (basketball, born 1989) → Isaiah Thomas (basketball) – Discussions at Talk:Tony Parker (basketball, born 1993)#Page move brought this article to my attention. Since this Isaiah Thomas spells his name differently than Isiah Thomas, who is the primary topic at Isiah Thomas (disambiguation), there is not really a compelling reason not to place this article at Isaiah Thomas (basketball). Furthermore, Isaiah Thomas (basketball) already redirects to this page. I think there should be a redirect at Isiah Thomas (basketball) to the primary topic (or the disambiguation page). If the redirect is pointed to the primary topic, it could have a hatnote with the following text "Isiah Thomas (basketball) redirects here, for the 2010s professional basketball player see Isaiah Thomas (basketball), for other uses, see Isiah Thomas (disambiguation)." TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:59, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I can Support this so long as the redirect for the HOFer is created. Otherwise people would get (more) confused. Rikster2 (talk) 01:04, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Rikster2, can you bold your support for procedural custom.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:28, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support No-brainer to me, they have different names, even though Isaiah was obviously named after Isiah. Timmyshin (talk) 03:26, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Isaiah Jamar Thomas ? -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:50, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- No. He is not known by that name. We should not use an uncommon name to avoid a redirect. Rikster2 (talk) 11:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - an unusual variant spelling of Isaiah is not a different name In ictu oculi (talk) 23:35, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- In ictu oculi, Haven't spelling variants always been considered different page names on WP?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:00, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - Let me clarify. I know that there are articles for spelling variants like Stefanie X and Stephanie X or Elizabeth X and Elisabeth X. However, I am not sure if there are articles for Stefanie Foo (X) and Stephanie Foo (X) or Elizabeth Foo (X) and Elisabeth Foo (X). Is there a policy against identical disambiguants for spelling variations?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:12, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is a case of a misspelling. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:07, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In ictu oculi, In your world, there are probably right and wrong ways to spell names. I don't really think you should start a category Categorry:People who I think misspell their names. On WP, we just view names like Isiah Thomas, Dwyane Wade and Allyson Felix as alternate spellings that are no less acceptable than Stephen vs. Steven, Allen or Allan vs. Alan, Elizabeth vs. Elisabeth or Stephanie vs. Stefanie.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:01, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes "in my world" there is a difference between a variant and a misspelling. The point is anyone looking for either Isaiah Thomas is likely to spell Isaiah correctly. WP:RECOGNIZABILITY, and the former NBA All-Star and Hall of Fame guard is also spelled Isaiah in some sources. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:06, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In ictu oculi, WP:RECOGNIZABILITY does not appear to make any statements about misspellings or variant spellings. However, can you tell me which of the following pairs/groups are correctly spelled Ann/Anne, Ana/Anna, Derek/Derrick, Kristin/Kristen/Krysten/Krystin, Stephen/Steven, Allen/Allan/Alan, Elizabeth/Elisabeth, Darryl/Derrill (there are actually approximately 27 spellings of Darryl), Stephanie/Stefanie, Gerry/Jerry, Bobby/Bobbie, etc. I imaging that any of them are often misspelled in some sources.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:55, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support; the hall-of-famer is probably the primary topic of the two, but either way names with "basketball" in them are a WP:TWODABS situation, and further disambiguation between them is not needed at all. bd2412 T 02:03, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Even if one of the spellings is an uncommon way to spell the name, "Isiah Thomas" and "Isaiah Thomas" are distinct, so there's no reason why we can't have Isiah Thomas (basketball) and Isaiah Thomas (basketball). Hatnotes can take care of any confusion. As an example of variant spellings with the same disambiguation tag, we have two different novels at Catherine (novel) and Katherine (novel). Egsan Bacon (talk) 15:14, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Avoid readers at Isiah Thomas (disambiguation) having to do a double take on a Isaiah Thomas (basketball) entry when the primary topic, Isiah Thomas, is also a basketball player. "Isn't this the same as the primary topic? Why is it listed twice. Ohhhh, there's an extra 'a' on this one. Sigh." AFAIK, this is the convention when the primary topic and a non-primary topic are in the same domain. See Jordan Adams, male basketball player, and Jordan Adams (basketball, born 1981), female basketball player.—Bagumba (talk) 06:04, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Bagumba you are giving an example where the names are spelled the same. This is more like Alan Jones (cricketer) and Allan Jones (cricketer), the names are spelled differently. Do you have any examples where the names are variant spellings?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:03, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The existing disambiguation page at Isiah Thomas (disambiguation) is just fine and the current hatnote at Isaiah Thomas (basketball, born 1989) is also just fine. older ≠ wiser 11:18, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2016

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Should change picture to his current teams uniform 98.221.48.166 (talk) 03:41, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: We don't magically have pictures to use. If you have a picture that is on the Wikimedia commons that fits this, please link it here. Thanks --allthefoxes ^(Talk) 03:59, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2017

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Change "In Game 2 against Washington, Thomas scored 53 points—the second-highest total in Celtics playoff history—to help Boston win 129–119 in overtime and take a 2–0 lead in the series" to "In Game 2 against Washington, Thomas scored 53 points—the second-highest total in Celtics playoff history—to help Boston win 129–119 in overtime and take a 2–0 lead in the series, on what would have been his late sister's 23rd birthday." TheHollowMan (talk) 10:41, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That is trivial content and not relevant. You're putting undue weight on that fact. DaHuzyBru (talk) 11:29, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Change Team to Cleveland Cavaliers due to trade Lebronjames92 (talk) 23:31, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Trade is not confirmed by NBA nor the Cavaliers or Celtics. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:19, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 August 2017

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He plays for the Cleveland Cavaliers 47.182.81.29 (talk) 01:10, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 01:19, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Isaiah Jamar Thomas is an American professional basketball player for the Canton Charge of the NBA G League, on assignment from the Cleveland Cavaliers of the National Basketball Association. Thomas was assigned on December 21st, 2017 for injury rehab purposes. 73.24.183.153 (talk) 03:30, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Change Isaiah Jamar Thomas is an American professional basketball player for the Cleveland Cavaliers of the National Basketball Association.

to

Isaiah Jamar Thomas is an American professional basketball player for the Canton Charge of the NBA G League, on assignment from the Cleveland Cavaliers of the National Basketball Association. Thomas was assigned on December 21st, 2017 for injury rehab purposes. 73.24.183.153 (talk) 03:31, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. He was assigned to Canton to scrimmage with the team for a few hours. In the grand scheme of Thomas' career, this is very, very minor and anymore than a small note in the prose is more than enough. DaHuzyBru (talk) 03:35, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 February 2018

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I need to change it because Isaiah Thomas is on the Lakers not the Cavaliers. Grant078 (talk) 17:55, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Already done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:50, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2019

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The final sentence of the introduction says "On July 2019 Isaiah signed with the washington. 108.20.39.105 (talk) 16:17, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed it to Washington Wizards. MadGuy7023 (talk) 16:37, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2020

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un-necessary imformation 86.171.7.115 (talk) 22:22, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ~ mazca ^talk 00:03, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Player traded

Thomas now plays for the LA clippers Irish0553 (talk) 06:59, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Correct PPG Average in All Star Games is 14.5 (29 points in 2 appearances) and not 14.8 217.71.68.244 (talk) 14:44, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All star game stats

listed points is 14.8 ppg but it's 14.5 mpg is 18.4 but it's 18.9 (18 59/60 + 18 48/60)/2= 18 107/120 ≈ 18.9 rpg and apg are listed at 1.7 and 1.8 but both should be 2 ^[1] ^[2]— Preceding unsigned comment added by Oodnadatta01 (talk • contribs) 00:11, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed.—Bagumba (talk) 05:43, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

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Isaiah Thomas is wearing #2 against the Kings right now, not #31. MelancholicSlav (talk) 05:15, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Kante4 (talk) 05:23, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

roster

he is currently on the charlotte hornets roster as of now, he was signed to a 10 day contract Kaynepp (talk) 09:31, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kaynepp: Can you cite a reliable source? Note that something like this from ESPN is breaking news, which we wouldn't use becuase they base it off of anonymous sources. Moreover, they phrase it as "is signing", as opposed to "signed" i.e. past tense, done deal. You can refer to Wikipedia:WikiProject Sports/Handling sports transactions for more info. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 09:43, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Inside "Early life", the year of the below sentence is wrong, the bet made by his father it happened the year before he was born, so it needs to be done in the 1988 NBA finals Lakers vs Pistons.
if his beloved team did not defeat the Detroit Pistons in the 1989 NBA Finals
if his beloved team did not defeat the Detroit Pistons in the 1988 NBA Finals

please change 1989 NBA Finals to 1988 NBA Finals

Bernardao (talk) 08:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The sentence following that one makes it clear that it is referring to the finals that occured in June 1989. Thomas was born months before the finals took place RudolfRed (talk) 22:37, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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