Talk:Interstate 490 (Ohio)
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[edit]The links for reference numbers 8, 9, and 11 require log-on credentials. 184.56.35.24 (talk) 04:59, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Opportunity Corridor
[edit]It appears this Oppritonity Corridor project won't actually be a part of I-490; it will instead be just a regular road. As such, we should remove information about the Oppritonity Corridor from this article, since it's not actually going to be a part of the highway. Agree? Pyrotle {T/C} 18:37, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- It should probably be refactored to say that it was going to be part of the Opportunity Corridor, but will not be any longer. –Fredddie™ 02:23, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- What is the Opportunity Corridor? Pyrotle is talking about the Oppritonity Corridor. Totally different. VC 03:00, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Fredddie: Actually, judging from this article from 2008, this Opporitunity Corridor
(spelled it wrong, sorry)wasn't planned as a part of I-490 at all. Pyrotle {T/C} 14:10, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Fredddie: Actually, judging from this article from 2008, this Opporitunity Corridor
- What is the Opportunity Corridor? Pyrotle is talking about the Oppritonity Corridor. Totally different. VC 03:00, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- The Opportunity Corridor will roughly follow the west end of cancelled I-290 routing, the Clark Freeway. I-290 does not have its own article but is a part of the I-490 article since I-490 is the only part of the Clark Freeway that has opened thus far, not counting the section of I-90 between its cancelled diversion to the north and the I-90/71/490 interchange. That's why the Corridor's info was placed in a subsection of the History section of I-490 rather than in the main section. (The Clark Freeway is covered in Reports 8 and 6 here for reference, and, incidentally, the latter covers the I-90 northern diversion even though it was to be part of the Parma Freeway, the rest of which is covered in Report 12.) The Opportunity Corridor and I-290 may not be related in terms of planning but they are in terms of space since they both would/will continue the eastward trajectory of I-490 for the most part and perform basically the same function through the end of the Opportunity Corridor's east end.
- I-290 and/or the Opportunity Corridor possibly could be covered on its/their own article(s) provided that there is a consensus on notability of either. Mapsax (talk) 15:45, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- Considering that the corridor will be part of SR 10 (page 23), so most of the info should be added on to Ohio State Route 10.—CycloneIsaac (Talk) 01:17, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- Interesting. Up until now I had only seen mention of the SR 10 designation in the City of Cleveland document referenced from the junction list. Of course, the '15 construction info was just released.... Now, while the entry (Map Number 36) seems to insist that ODOT has decided for sure on the designation, mentioning it twice therein, before we start migrating stuff, should we wait until we find something even more straight forward, such as a press release or route data revision directly stating or showing that SR 10 will be extended and possibly a date when decided?
- Aside to my notability comment above: I forgot that 290 originally had its own article – my 20th and 21st edits under this account were to it – and was merged into the 490 one early on. That could be relevant. Mapsax (talk) 11:55, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- Considering that the corridor will be part of SR 10 (page 23), so most of the info should be added on to Ohio State Route 10.—CycloneIsaac (Talk) 01:17, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Eastern terminus since Opportunity Corridor completion
[edit]Is it safe to say that I-490 has been truncated to I-77 now that SR-10 continues to the east, especially since this is reflected in the signage, or is waiting for an updated DESTAPE file our only option before changing that in the article? (The "live" one on the ODOT website as I write this was "run" in 2022 but is as of 2021.) Mapsax (talk) 02:41, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Section between I-77 and East 55th
[edit]This section was done long before the main section between I-71 and I-77 (symbols are ambiguous on the 1970 and 1979 USGS topo maps but adjusted by the 1984 edition). I'm not sure where this can go in the timeline due to the ambiguity of it being called or not being called I-490, both then and now. Mapsax (talk) 00:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Mapsax: It was considered a future Interstate route at the time, but until 1990 it was considered to be just an exit ramp with flyovers. Cards84664 04:27, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know about that, it could have been unsigned I-290 or unsigned I-490. In any case, since this section has been considered I-490 since 1990, at least by ODOT if not also by FHWA, and even apparently after the completion of Opportunity Corridor Boulevard, it should figure into the history, even if it wasn't officially considered a mainline highway from whenever to 1990. Mapsax (talk) 01:21, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, it can be considered similar to any other unfinished interchange lacking a route designation. I will dig through some area newspaper archives to confirm the pre-1990 status. Cards84664 03:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know about that, it could have been unsigned I-290 or unsigned I-490. In any case, since this section has been considered I-490 since 1990, at least by ODOT if not also by FHWA, and even apparently after the completion of Opportunity Corridor Boulevard, it should figure into the history, even if it wasn't officially considered a mainline highway from whenever to 1990. Mapsax (talk) 01:21, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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