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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Internet in South Korea was merged into South Korean web culture with this edit on 21 Dec 2023. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

A quote under Criticism section

There is a quote that states "foreign websites are significantly slower than South-Korean websites, for example websites for video streaming" but "This is a common problem in any country trying to communicate over foreign waters, since the latency in transcontinental communication is higher due to the physical distance that the signal has to travel" is a misleading reason, though partially true. There are throttling problems in Korea, for example, commonly known one is an ISP throttling speeds to YouTube. However, this is just to protect the domestic video streaming services, which is an anti-competitive policy.

Paethos (talk) 04:29, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Microsoft monoculture

It's odd but while South Korea is the worldwide leader in broadband [1], ie. in hardware infrastructure, it's lagging behind in software. The internet in South Korea is a Microsoft Internet Explorer monoculture, which is starting to become a drain on innovation. [2] [3] [4] The article needs to address this apparent contradiction. --Mkill (talk) 08:21, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

internet addiction

This article is concerned with usage of the Internet in south korea - as such a correctly cited section detailing Internet addiction in south korea is highly relevant - please do not remove it again. カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 03:37, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You removal of cited facts before about other Korea-related article such as List of Korean inventions and innovations. so I don't feel qualified to your comments.--Historiographer (talk) 13:24, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This talk page is to discuss the Internet in south korea article, please limit your discussion to that topic. If, as you have stated, you are not qualified to comment, then perhaps refrain from editing this article until such time as you do feel qualified to do so. Thanks and have a nice day. カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 08:35, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The information from User:Sennen goroshi on Internet addictions in South Korea is true and relevant to this article. And there is no sufficient reason to delete it. I would suggest any pro-Korean editors to add positive outcomes of Korean Internet use instead. Hkwon (talk) 10:12, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Hkwon, from previous edits I assume we have different viewpoints on many Asia related topics, but you have my full respect as a wikipedia editor. I am sure internet addiction is not limited to South Korea, so perhaps this is a topic that could be added to articles relating to Internet use in other nations. カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 11:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To Sennen goroshi: I respect you as a devoted Wikipedia editor, but I don't need your full respect from you or anyone else, either from Japan or Korea. You reported a serious incedent of Internet addiction in South Korea, and the information was based on reliable and relevant sources. That is why I back up your claim. Hkwon (talk) 11:58, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To Historiographer: The starved baby incident is obviously relevant to the topic of this ariticle, "Internet in South Korea" and verifiable, no matter what it means to Korean netizens. I don't care if 100 Korean couples starved their babies enjoyoing online games, if it were true. To pro-Korean editors: I would add optimisitc contents concerning Korean Internet use instead of concealing negative aspects. This is starting an Edit war.Hkwon (talk) 13:48, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know this is an old discussion, but what happened to that section? Seems to have disappeared again? 31.221.17.82 (talk) 16:47, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war on the section "Internet addiction"

The page is now fully protected till June 9, 2010. I hope the warring editors take this time to learn to bring disagreements with each other to the talk page and try to gather consensus, instead of keep reverting each other's edits. I hope that there won't be another edit war and that I don't have to make another protection request as soon as this protection expires.Hkwon (talk) 06:03, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cheapest and fastest internet?

In the National Program section, it says that South Korea has the cheapest, fastest broadband in the world. The source for that claim doesn't say anywhere that it has the cheapest internet. In fact some countries offer an internet connection for free; is South Korea one of them? It might have the cheapest 1 gigabit per second internet in the world, but the article never makes that claim either. Also it's important to note that it doesn't necessarily have the fastest internet in the world but rather the fastest average internet speed. The article is also 5 years old; claims about the internet in a country that are from a source that old should probably say something like "as of 2011" to clarify the information may potentially be out of date. 97.126.89.172 (talk) 07:39, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

The cyberculture section is virtually the same in scope as the article South Korean web culture. Should it be merged? Tera TIX 01:42, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Another possibility would be to merge South Korean web culture into this article instead.) Tera TIX 01:47, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support merge, Teratix, on the condition that a useful summary is written there. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:30, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Split section Cyberculture to article South Korean web culture

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

No opposition to moving the content of the section Cyberculture to the article South Korean web culture. @Finnusertop and Teratix: Please go ahead with moving the content and adapting the lead as a summary for this page. Felix QW (talk) 12:51, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I support the proposed splitting of the section Cyberculture in this article to South Korean web culture. After that, a proper lead should be written in the target article and that lead summarized here along with a {{main}} link under the heading Cyberculture. See WP:SS for instructions. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 07:13, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Done Klbrain (talk) 21:01, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the Network Fee Policy section

The following information should be added to the article... with proper references.

There is some major news regarding South Korea's Network Fee Policy. Twitch announced on 5 Dec 2023 that it will discontinue doing business in South Korea due to the extraordinarily high cost of Internet bandwidth there. Twitch has announced that it will stop allowing South Korean nationals to use Twitch from South Korea. Twitch will also not allow South Korean streamers to monetize their streams and will no longer show ads on their channels. Apparently, it will still be possible to stream to Twitch from South Korea through the use of cloud services as this does not use a direct connection to Twitch. Although, it is uncertain if Korean nationals can do that. This seems to be determined by what country people claim as their home country in their Twitch account. Twitch is also considering GeoIP blocking South Korean's access to Twitch.

The main reason for the shutdown is because Twitch is having to pay bandwidth fees for consumer consumption of Twitch. The more popular Twitch becomes in South Korea, the higher the cost. The CEO of Twitch stated (in the VOD linked below) that Twitch experimented with various ways to lower the costs associated with operating Twitch in South Korea but that ultimately it was unsustainable and too expensive to continue business operations there.

(This is a VOD of the CEO of Twitch discussing what will happen to Twitch in South Korea. Note: This is a Twitch VOD and will likely get deleted after a certain amount of time. I tried to archive it, but that failed. [5]) (This link is to a blog post, but it is from the CEO of Twitch. So can it be used as a reference? [6]) (There is also this Twitch help article (not a blog) that shows a timeline of when Twitch will be shutting down services in South Korea. [7] This link will not properly archive.)

There is also a blog post from Cloudflare talking about the high cost of bandwidth in South Korea. Refer to the section on Asia. This is a rather informative article on the relative cost of bandwidth worldwide. [8]

I know that in general, blogs should not be used as references. However, these are official blogs from large corporations, so maybe allow exceptions?

-- Ubh [talk... contribs...] 05:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the References section

I was looking at the references section of this article and I noticed this large paragraph containing a bunch of references. I looked at the page source and discovered that there are a bunch of references that are actually inside the references section. There are no <ref> tags. It's just plain text. I was going to edit them to be proper references, but then I realized that I had no idea as to where to actually put them! This is the kind of editing work that I usually do, but I'm kinda lost here. So, I'll leave that task for someone else. -- Ubh [talk... contribs...] 04:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]