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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 07:09, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Hopefully I can do this in full today! --K. Peake 07:09, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

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  • Infobox looks good!
  • The pop ballad part should be merged with the lyrics sentence; merge the production and wrote in response sentences instead earlier on
  • "Swift wrote "Innocent" in" → "Swift wrote the song in"
  • Wikilink 2009 MTV Video Music Awards
  • "claiming him to be "innocent"" → "claiming him to hold innocence"
  • "Swift performed "Innocent" live" → "Swift performed it live" also, this should be the penultimate sentence of the last para
  • "of putting the controversy behind them." → "of putting the controversy behind her and West."
  • Place the critical reception sentence first in the second para
  • ""Innocent" peaked at" → "the song peaked at" but place Billboard Hot 100 first per this being Swift's native country
  • "some viewed it as" → "some viewed the song as"

Background and writing

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  • Wikilink 2009 MTV Video Music Awards on the img text
  • Remove American singer-songwriter introduction since that is not needed when already provided in the lead
  • "on her third studio album," → "on her third studio album"
  • "in real life could not." → "in real life but did not."
  • Only refer to West as rapper because that's his main identity
  • "former U.S. president" → "former US President"
  • "was a song that took her longer to finish than" → "took longer for her to finish than" to be less wordy

Music and lyrics

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  • ""Innocent" is a gentle pop ballad in which" → "Musically, "Innocent" is a gentle pop ballad, in which"
  • Mention the additional instruments included per the liner notes
  • "thanks to Swift's use" → "due to Swift's use"
  • "growing up now/ Who" → "growing up now/Who" per the source
  • Wikilink imagery
  • Invoke [8] after the "firefly catchin' days" sentence, as any with a quote needs a citation
  • I'm not sure if "with them" is needed since they is already used after the comma
  • "It mourns the loss of" → "The song mourns the loss of"
  • [13] should solely be invoked at the end of the para because it is not needed separately for the last two sentences
  • "as 32, being West's" → "as 32, West's"

Release and live performance

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  • "Swift performed "Innocent" live" → "Swift debuted "Innocent" with a live performance"
  • "Addressing the Kanye West controversy" → "Addressing the West controversy"
  • Wikilink acoustic guitar
  • "She said the performance" → "Swift said the performance"
  • "at the MTV awards" → "at the awards show"
  • "she wanted to do with the album" → "she wanted to do with"
  • "at that moment."" → "at that moment"." per MOS:QUOTE
  • Wikilink lead single
  • Are you sure the word commercially is needed for the release? Also, the song is not mentioned by that source nor is the date
  • Swap the Billboard Hot 100 and Canadian Hot 100 around, also both refs should be at the end of the sentence
  • The source does not mention the song specifically being left off the tour's set list

Reception and aftermath

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  • "some viewed it" → "some viewed the song"
  • "disguised as 'forgiveness' ", and" → "disguised as 'forgiveness'", and"
  • "and called Swift hypocritical" → "and saw Swift as hypocritical"
  • Remove pipe on New York
  • "maternal light: "she really plays" → "maternal light, "really play[ing]"
  • "to a baby."" → "to a baby"." per MOS:QUOTE
  • "'the better person' "." → "'the better person'"."
  • "public image as an innocent "America's Sweetheart"" → "innocent public image as "America's Sweetheart""
  • "into 2016 when she" → "into 2016, when she"
  • "controversy in which West released the single "Famous", which included" → "controversy, in which West released the single "Famous", including"
  • Steve Hyden → Steven Hyden with the wikilink
  • HitFix should not be italicised, also mention the reviewer gave the song a B grade
  • "its "beautiful" lyrics but" → "its "beautiful" lyrics, but"
  • Pipe CMT to CMT (American TV channel)
  • "manner and highlighted her" → "manner, and he highlighted her"

Credits and personnel

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  • Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel

Charts

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References

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  • Cite MTV News as publisher instead on refs 9 and 16, only wikilinking on the first instance
  • Add url-access subscription to ref 15
  • Cite CBS News as publisher instead on ref 18
  • WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on refs 21 and 36
  • WP:OVERLINK of Slant Magazine on ref 26
  • Cite The Ringer as publisher instead on ref 27
  • Cite BBC Music as publisher instead on ref 31
  • Cite HitFix as publisher instead on ref 33
  • Cite NJ.com as publisher instead on ref 34
  • For online sources, see MOS:TITLE ("Do not abuse incorrect template parameters (e.g. by putting the work title in |publisher= or |via=) in an attempt to avoid italicizing digital sources.") Unless the online source is a database (like ProQuest), I italicize all online sources that contain original content. Ippantekina (talk) 01:57, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • listen.tidal.com → Tidal on ref 35, citing as publisher instead and piping to Tidal (service), also fix MOS:CAPS issues with the title

Sources

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  • Good

Final comments and verdict

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