Talk:Initial D/Archive 1

Archive 1

Discussion of techniques/concepts

As someone who isn't a car expert, I think it would be great if someone could add a section (probably with spoiler) to explain various techniques and concepts from the anime. For example, why and how Takumi used gutters to drift, etc. Also, an explanation of the various cars featured in the anime and why/how the 86 was able to overcome them, and if it would be possible in real life as well.

Suns, 6 nov 2005 7:39 (UTC)

Continuity of 4th stage

Information from animenewsnetwork suggests that initial D fourth stage only has 18 episodes. With the 18th episode called Act 18 : Last Drive. Aired (or released, probably in japan) on 20th Aug 2005. I dont see or understand how there can be more than 18 episodes in fourth stage. I'am editing it to reflect what it should be. Please re-edit if i'am proven wrong. (sec5)

It is still running, episodes 19 and 20 were broadcasted on 15 October, and there's more to come. [1] —Philip N.✉ 15:49, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Since the stage has come this far it is safe to assume it will be of regular season length I have also added reference to the two newest characters who have arrived to challenge project D in the form of purple shadow. I admit that the information I hae provided is somewhat sparse but it is better than nothing. If anyone can elaborate/clarify what I have entered so far, specifically the Japanese Seiyuu for each character, please do so.--Alfador 23:22, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Since the "English Names" are referenced in the character list, I'm removing the references to the names in the Background section. Shingen 05:56, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Is street racing actually illegal in Japan (as the article says it is?) Can someone verify this? Acornlord 05:02, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I believe that illegal is not exactly word to put on, I could not come up with the word right now --manop 23:13, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

Since when is going over the speed limit not illegal? Silly question.

FYI: I saw almost everyone on interstates in NY here drives over the speed limit.

Just because almost everyone drives over the speed limit does not make it legal now does it? ;) -- KTC 12:44, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

That's not the main concern of the anime. Also, I think the whole passage need to be rewritten as it comtains too many omissions and did not reallt provide the setting. User:SYSS Mouse 17:50, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I personally don't think that any of the Saitama NW has any homecourse as they are no more than a bunch of fast drivers. Actually what's the point of adding the "homecourse " list in the article?

Someone should correct the reference near the beginning of the article to Mogi's relationship with the older man who's name escapes me at the moment from prostitution to the correct term for the Japanese practice of school-age girls escorting older men, which also escapes my memory, along with a link to the wikipedia article if there is one. MardukZero 21:48, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Enjo kosai? — THOR 6 July 2005 15:13 (UTC)

Street racing in Japan *IS* illegal and does take place in urban areas. Just look at shutokou racing on the various highway loops in the urban areas. However, in many cases the authorities tend to turn a blind eye to these activities and it is generally allowed, except in cases where a few police forces and local yakuza will object.

Street Racing *IS* illegal in Japan. I've got a copy of "Hasiriya", a DVD documentation of street racing, And it clearly states that these racing is illegal. But, you know, sometimes rules made to be broken... And yes, the exception mentioned above does count.

Another reason that this tends to that mountain racing takes place at night, on lightly traveled roads where its presence is known and aknowledged. As a result athourities let mountain racers be because they have been known to prefer them racing in the manner they do than having them race on the highways and more populated streets posing a danger to citizens--Alfador 23:27, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

To make this totally clear, I can confirm that street racing and speeding are very illegal in Japan and that the fines are often much higher than most parts of North America. You can easily pay upwards of 100,000 yen (around $900-1000 USD) for going over the limit. However, enforcement is usually limited to speed traps on fairly busy roads, or unmanned radar cameras on highways. The chances of a police officer bing on a mountain pass at night are almost nil. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.82.171.213 (talk • contribs) .

Its simmilar to certain areas in the US. The roads are not settled (no driveways for cars to be pulling out, and no people walking along), they are isolated (very little public disturbance, and they in theory are not endangering anyone but themselves and other willing participants. If they cracked down on mountain racing it would simply cause more people to migrate to highways and city streets, which is harder to enforce since racing is usually impromptu as opposed to the planned gatherings on mountains. --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 06:24, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Initial D in Brazil

Initial D: First Stage began airing in Brazil in September 2005, through the cable channel "Animax" (Operator: TVA). All characters appear with their original Japanese names, and are superbly dubbed by Brazilian actors (no information on their names).

Last Ride

The term "Last Ride" is for Kyoko's last drive with Keisuke, as his thanks to Kyoko for lending him her FD3S in the last battle. I've seen the chapter, and there's no way the series will end there. Or will it be 5th Stage? Dunno...

This information seems no longer relevant since with the release of 4th stage episodes 19 and 20, as well as the commitment through 22 that this may be adressed further.

Cleanup Project

I am commiting myself to cleaning up the initial D articles to the best of my ability. There is a lot of segmentation in the article, with odd tidbits of information spreat throughout, especially the beginning section, I am going to attempt to categorize everything into groups while altering as little information as possible, instead adding to it. If anyone wishes to join me in this just let me know so that we can conspire on this project. So far I have added 2 images, created a project D section, and cleaned up some minor grammatical errors and misplaced information. I have also given the Tōge code its own section. However, I am not sure how much of it belongs in this article at all since Tōge does have its own article. I am loathe to remove it though as it does provide some good insight directly regarding initial D. I am going to attempt to categorize the beginning bullets into a release list of sorts.--OniOokamiAlfador 06:00, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Regarding my cleanup, I have rearranged/added/removed a lot of things, all of which I am confident make the article more encyclopedic and more readable. I am convinced however that the Team list should be moved to its own page. Unless objections to this are voiced I will prepare to do just that.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 07:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm doing occasional cleanups in some areas. Plus I also had to cleanup Initial D Eurobeat Song Selection and rewrite a horrible edit of the Soundtrack List for Arcade Stage. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cantthinkofausername (talk • contribs) .

Good to hear, but please note any signifigant changes on talk pages before you make them. This is an ongoing project that has taken a lot of time and effort, and is nowhere near done. It is much better if everyone is on the same page.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 04:45, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm disputing this info:

Tokyopop even altered the storyline when the episodes are viewed with the original Japanese soundtrack. The subtitles are intentionaly mistranslated to preserve the same storyline changes that were made for the english language version.

As is, it looks like it's a POV rather than fact. Either edit it more to seem like it's fact, or back it up with some tangible proof (i.e. Tokyopop Subs vs. Fansub Subs).--Cantthinkofausername 10:06, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Have you watched the series? I have watched it in the Tokyopop English soundtrack, Japanese with Tokyopop subtitles, Japanese with fan subtitles. In the Tokyopop versions, Natsuki (Natalie) refers to the man in the benz as a family member. (Uncle if I remember correctly.) In the fan version, he is simply an old man she sees for money. Its not so obvious they made the change when watching first stage alone, but once you know what to look for you see it.
I haven't added anything that I haven't verified extensively, trust me. Its also considered unconventional to directly cite the object being discussed when it is being analyzed, as it is implied. (You don't list a book on the works cited of an analysis of said book, its enough to say "in <booktitle>, X happened"--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 15:23, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

--Cantthinkofausername 06:52, 22 December 2005 (UTC)From the way it's written, it looks like it's more of an opinion piece more than a factual article. Like I said, edit it abit more so that it doesn't seem like it's a POV.

I changed it. It is stated as fact because it is such. The phrase "Tokyopop even went so far as to..." is valid, as intentionally mistranslating is an extremely unusual and widely considered extreme step in the "Americanization" of an Anime or Manga. It really hasn't been done to any Japanese ports to this country since probably the 1959 godzilla movie. Anything that is an expressed oponion by anyone is only mentioned if it is an opinion expressed by a substantially large group (such as the dedicated fanbase) and noted as such.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 01:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

More cleanup

I've spent some time this evening doing a fairly massive editing job on this page, correcting numerous run-on sentences, redundant passages, grammatical errors, and generally improving the readability. It still needs work and there are a few things I need to go back and add links for once I check on the relevant pages. Hopefully this can be a step towards getting this page up to the level it should be, there's a lot of great information here but it needs refining. I invite anyone so inclined to help me out. -RedMageCWD 01:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Akina is Fake?

First paragraph claims Mt. Akina is fictional, as are many of the places in the story, and that they are based on real places.

While the towns may not be real (Takumi is supposed to be from "S Town"; I don't think the Japanese are that unimaginative), I'm 100% certain that Mt. Akina is quite real (better known as Mt. Haruna), as is Mt. Akagi, Myogi, Irohazaka (which is truly one-way, both up and down), as well as Usui. Why would someone think that these locations are not real? The roads may not be 100% accurate in Initial D, but they are similar enough to pass for real (even including the early-ending railguards that Kai used to jump the turn). In fact, there are pictures of these passes in the mountains that are almost exactly what you see in the book (or show). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.243.238.204 (talk • contribs) .

See http://www.pref.gunma.jp/english/nature/index.htm

Agreed, I'll make the appropriate changes.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 06:44, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

The S Town is Shibukawa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibukawa,_Gunma

Summary of reversion

I recently made a large scale reversion of EnthusiastFRANCE's recent edits to the article. I will explain why each section was reverted in detail here:

• Line 66: The "D" is not necessarily for drift in the purest sense. It is stated by Takahashi Ryosuke that D, as well as "the initial" has another meaning in his discussions with Matsumoto.
• Line 83: The line breaks around are there for formatting to keep the image from overindenting the movie section.
• Line 93: Special stage does not need to be linked because it does not have its own page, and is explained in detail below.
• Line 101: A lot of unecessary information, most of which is trivial and not benificial to the article. This is not just a Toge thing but a street racer/tuner euphemism in general. Perhaps a much smaller abbreviated statement will do if you really think its necessary.
• Line 172: References to other games with Eight-Sixes in them are unnecessary. They probably belong on the page for Toyota AE86 Sprinter Trueno

--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 19:56, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

--->Pff! FU! Will not waste anymore time with this page. Who do you think you are to judge my infos as irrelevant and remove everything i've wrote? Do you think you own this page maybe?! This is not your fansite boy, but an encyclopedia with several contributors and where every infos related to the subject has its importance and place. [EnthusiastFRANCE]

I'm sorry that you feel that way, but the majority of your edits were either factually innaccurate or in the wrong place. The information regarding the trueno was, for the purposes of this article, WP:CRUFT. Matters like these are why the talk page exists. In that way a discussion can be made to find a consensus or compromise in which information can be presented as to better add to the current article in its form. The examples of other incidents where trueno's and the associated USDM carollas show up in media are something perhaps more worthwhile on the page for the car itself. If we were to note the trueno's other appearances here what would stop us from needing to do it with the FC, FD, Sileighty, Silvia, Evo, and so forth?--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 17:18, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

>>>Bullshits! The "compromise" YOU found alone, was to remove ALL my infos just like you were the owner of this page and the only one abilited to write on it. Do you think Initial D is only broadcasted in your district maybe? Pff! And what about the chassis code info used in Initial D? They don't talk about "Sprinter Trueno GT APEX" but about "86" instead! And what about Initial "D" is for if not for "Dorifuto"? You think it's for "DoubleIdiot" er? You stupid boy! Now leave me alone and go in hell with your damn page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by EnthusiastFRANCE (talk • contribs)

Please try to be civil. It seems you're just upset that your edits got reverted, and nothing more. As for the Sprinter Trueno GT APEX, It doesn't belong here. Its a lot of cruftish extrenious information. And yes its not mentioned in the series and it may serve someone well to learn that information, but it belongs on the page for the car itself, and following the wikilinks would suffice. Do you suggest we insert the entire presidential election process onto the page for every US president so that readers know how they come to office, or perhaps we should have a full technical explanation of superchargers, turbochargers, limited slip differentials, and the like here as well since they all play a critical role in the series. I dont see a signifigant difference, and the consensus will agree with that. As for compromise, I told you if you wanted to discuss this it would not be difficult to reach a compromise or consensus, but instead you choose to make personal attacks and inflamatory accusations. If you wish to make a personal attack on me, please take it to my talk page so other people do not have to be bothered with it. Also, please sign your comments.

PS: I dont see what the relevance is to where initial D is and is not broadcasted. It is not as a matter of fact broadcasted in my "district" and is not much ever if it is anywhere in the United States. Its all on DVD release and fan-subtitles. Frankly, I could not care any less where it is broadcast for the purpose of this discussion. It does not affect the basis of the article much at all. --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 10:46, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Mountain Racer's Code

The last lines of "Mountain Racer's Code" is utter fabrication. "The car is to be tuned best for the streets, and the interior should be mostly intact. The cars used in Touge should still be drivable for daily transportation and comfort. A heavily modified car which is not fun to drive or has no comfort for its driver and its passengers is not generally accepted within the Touge code. It may be made for street racing, but the importance of fun and comfort are not present. Nitrous Oxide is also not used as there are very few straightaways on mountain roads, and it does not speak to the driver's skill."

Why would the interior have to be mostly intact? Why must it driveable for daily transportation? If anything, that's a preference, but if you want the best performance possible you'd be tuning it MUCH harder than what is comfortable for daily driving, and you'd be taking out as much weight as possible in order to accelerate/turn/brake better. You can compare this to autocrossing. Sure, most people bring in nearly stock cars. However, the most hardcore competitors haul in cars in trailers and have spent thousands of $$$ tuning the car into a state not anywhere CLOSE to streetable. And this isn't even on a racetrack; just on a parking lot with cones.

Secondly, what is this "Nitrous Oxide" bullshit? Why can't you use nitrous oxide? "Does not speak to the driver's skill" - Please. There are 350hp turbocharged monsters in Initial D. Nitrous oxide isn't some exotic power-boosting module. Fundamentally, it adds to the amount of oxygen used in the combustion process so that more power can be produced. Which, in the end, is what any turbocharger, supercharger, aftermarket intake, larger exhaust, etc. is intended to do.

I deleted this bullshit earlier and was accused of vandalism. Why not accuse the original writer of this section of INANITY, then? Zhandao 03:06, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad you deleted it, I think whoever wrote it was trying to over-apply the Best MOTORing Touge Challenge rules. It did not derive from anything spelt out in Initial D. RB30DE 09:31, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I just went ahead and removed it. I'm tired of the bullshit and drama that keeps seeping into that section and it would appear that you both agree. This is another issue that would be better taken up on the page actually about the topic than on a page that just happens to reference it. The only explanation of togue that is needed for Initial D is as follows:mountain street racing, downhill and hill climb, and the generally passing rules (timed runs and runner-chaser).--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 09:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Glad to see it go. RB30DE 11:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Eight-Six vs. Eighty-Six

I saw a revert made to change Eighty-Six to Eight-Six. I disagree strongly with the reason given. Amongst car enthusiasts speaking in English, I have never heard anyone say "Eight-Six", it is always spoken "Eighty-Six", just as Skylines are spoken "R-Thirty-Two" or "V-Thirty-Five", rotary engines are spoken "Thirteen-B", etc. Japanese do say "Hachi-Roku", "R-San-Ni", "Ichi-San-B" but English does not follow this. If it is written it is either "86" or "Eighty-Six" (dash optional, "y" compulsory). 210.xx.xxx.xx 09:40, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Hachi = Eight. Roku = Six. Ergo, Hachi-Roku = Eight Six. Simple, ne?--293.xx.xxx.xx 08:10, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Simple and wrong. The AE86 has been around a lot longer than Initial D has. English speakers do not say "Eight Six", they say "Eighty Six". If they are saying "Eight Six" they are copying a bad translation. If enough of them copy a bad translation, perhaps "Eight Six" will become the standard. Muzukashi ne? RB30DE 03:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I hear both "Eighty Six" and "Eight Six." So, why not compromise and have a note about the mistranslation? Then again, I constantly hear people refer the Datsun 510 as "the five and dime and nobody complains. --293.xx.xxx.xx 08:03, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough, then the language is changing. I wouldn't have minded what people wrote either way, but the punctiliousness of the correction (which I perceived to be in error) bothered me. I probably shouldn't have drawn attention to it. RB30DE 09:24, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

you guys are all geeks... for the cool, its simply "8-6.. EIGHT-SIX". "eighty six" is should be reserved for the red neck state side internet drifters... so you can be cool or seen as a red neck state side internet drifter... the choice is yours. 64.29.36.15 03:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

If by that you mean older people say "Eighty Six" and younger people say "Eight Six" you are probably right. I would have thought that people more likely to say "Eight Six" would be Anime fans & pre-drivers, who'd had their first exposure to the car through a Tokyopop translation. However there may well be regional variation. For my fellow red neck state side internet drifter geeks, compare and contrast AE92, AE101, AE111, JZA70, JZA80, R32, R33. RB30DE 22:03, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Its not only a matter of mistranslation or gramatical correctness. When combined with the word "Trueno" or the word "carolla" the combinations "eight six" and "eight-six" retrieve many more (in most cases at least double the amount) results from google than eighty six or eighty-six. The term Eight-Six is definitely used more often. In the anime it is referred two by the characters as "hachi-roku" which translates to eight-six, not eighty-six. Also, in the Tokyopop dubs and in the english publication of the managa, Eight-six is definitely the prominent usage. I'm not sure if anyone ever refers to it as an eighty-six. So for the purposes of this article it's definitely eight-six. If anyone still disputes this it really needs to be adressed on the Toyota AE86 page first, which I might point out uses "eight-six".--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 09:38, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not reverting edits based on it, so there's no dispute. Try "eight six corolla -initial" as a search. Big difference. "I'm not sure if anyone ever refers to it as an eighty-six." - Did you or did you not just google the term?? I have never seen the Tokyopop translation, so I'm genuinely curious, are we now calling Silvias "S One Five" and Skylines "R Three Two"? RB30DE 10:40, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, '"eighty six" corolla -initial' comes up with 643 results whereas '"eight six" corolla -initial' comes up with 2360 results. Zhandao (talk) 04:08, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Its best to clear it up nonetheless so that a standard can be reached. From my personal experience, when just the number is said, it is usally done militaristically (one-five, eight-six, three-four, three-two, etc), but when it is said with the letters in the chassis/model code it is more likely to be romanized and spoken normally (A-E-eighty-six, S-thirteen, R-thirty-four, etc.). That is understandable as the militarizing the numbers sounds a little less natural (I'm not saying whether or not they sounded all that natural in the first place, but with the letters they sound much less so, to me at least). When I said "I'm not sure if anyone refers to it as an eighty-six" I intended it to mean within the English translations of both the manga and the anime. Also in the arcade game the character text clearly refers to the eight-six as "eight-six", but it is a little more ambiguous for some of the others. The R32 is usually just referred to numerically, as "R32" but once or twice I think Nakazato does refer to it as a three-two. In any case, regardless of the actual development and usage of the term elsewhere within the Anime, manga, and game it is definitely referred two as eight-six, and rarely (if ever) eighty-six.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Personaly I have never heard it refered to as an "eighty-six" however I do know that Skylines are usualy refered to in that manner "R Thirty Two". It's entirely possible that one manufacuturer would use one style vs another. Spazzz 21:18, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

wow whoever wrote this article needs to chill out and not stress out about these things call it whatever the hell you want to call it as long is not a "hatchie-roku" or "coupie-roku" or someone will kick your a**

I was in Japan for six years (Okinawa specifically) from 1999, and I remember something that could correlate to this. This was at the time when the Nintendo 64 was at its peak. So a lot of my friends (who spoke Japanese, I went to an American private school) had it and I caught on that the Nintendo 64's nickname was the Roku-yon (Litterally, six-four). It wasn't just them, I believe my aunt who was there was also commenting how the locals nicknamed the Nintendo 64 the Roku-yon. What's the nickname for Americans? N64, prounounced N-sixty-four, or perhaps just the sixty-four. I've yet to hear an American call the Nintendo 64 six-four. XenoL-Type 10:04, 26 Janurary 2007 (UTC)

I think the most relevant thing is what they call it in the story itself. And in all the anime I've seen of it, they call it Eight Six, so I think that's what it should be called in the article. 77.75.167.74 05:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Tokyopop Alterations

I added some more screenshots for each seasons synopsis. I'm also curious about this phrase "(this is a nickname many Japanese-American change their names to)" in the section titled, "Tokyopop Alterations". I'm not a Japanese American but I wonder if that's considered POV or if a source would need to be cited for that. Spazzz 07:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Someone messed up with Kenji information in the wikipedia us. put all things in spanish and thy to work the styles with pure html... i will reverse this.

Where do we go from here?

I'm just wondering since we currently rate this article as B what do we need to do to take it up to the next step? I think we still need to agree on a standard for referenceing the 86 "see below discussions" and also need to generaly clean the article up. I think some of the information contained in the early parts of the article about the different stages could be removed, cleaned up, and then added back in to an expanded synopsis section. I also worry about the article focusing more on the Anime than the Manga but as I have not read the manga (and will not due to tokyopop's english representation of it) I do not feel I have enough knowladge to expand on that subject. Any ideas? Spazzz 17:39, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm working on generally cleaning it up and refining it, hopefully we can get the grade up before long. As for the manga, I haven't read it either, we need people with that knowledge to contribute. Eventually it's not out of the realm of possibility we'll have enough info on both to make this a page devote to general information about the Initial D franchise and then have seperate pages for detailed looks at the anime and manga. -RedMageCWD 02:01, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Consistent useage of terms

I've noticed that throughout the article we seem to be switching between refering to Takumi's Trueno either numericly "86" or phoneticly "eight-six". Probobly just the hazards of multiple people working on the article. The discussion over if it's Eight Six or Eighty Six aside, I think we need to pick one and stick with it to keep the article consistant though i'm not sure which one would be more "correct". If I had to pick I'd say do it numericly at least it would avoid the arguement over how to pronounce it. Any thoughts?

Spazzz 08:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

While you are sweating the small stuff...Did you catch the flub?

Yes, there's a flub in Initial-D that is just as obvious as Steve McQueen throwing FIVE hub caps from his Mustang in one car chase in Bullitt.

If you haven't caught it yet, go back and watch them again from the start until you say "Not in that car he didn't." (And no, it has nothing to do with the quality of the driving, it is something plain old WRONG for this car.)

What that it says toreno instead of trueno in some scenes?

Copyright/Trademark problems. It's apparent in various other forms. If you see any scence of the Trueno's engine, look at the emblem on the engine block. --293.xx.xxx.xx 20:45, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Unneeded info

Although in real life Touges power truely doesn't matter,260km/h still has to slow down for a corner considering how fast it was going and if it were to enter the corner at that speed it would understeer and crash while an under powered car is able to storm in at decent speed and exit at acceleration instead of slowing down easing out of the turn and letting hp work which is a very insufficient way to race. initial d arcade stage does have some major bugs such as rx-8's being able to accel no matter how much guardrail they eat. a more realistic touch would be to include a clutch and a real stick...for those who like to[heal-toe] Akina.

Though this information has a few facts, it's mostly comprised of opinions and stuff that aren't really relevant because this is NOT the Initial D Arcade Stage article. Sloppy grammar, too. I'm taking it out for the time being. In fact, other info in the article needs work, people are constantly changing the contents and not all of them are completely suitable. Please give me your opinion on the matter --Chemicalist 08:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Isn't the link to Initial D (film) needed? I mean in the See Also. To the readers who are not interested in Anima, but in film, difficult to reach the Jay Chou's Intial D - Zhong 09:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

There is a link to it in the Movie section, which is very close to the See also section. --Squilibob 12:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Missing: Extra Stage & Battle Stage

There's no coverage here at all for these two OVAs. If there's been an explantion of why or any discussion, I overlooked it. I could get them started myself but as I haven't seen all of either my contributions may be a bit thin. -RedMageCWD 02:04, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Think we should do a car list?

I think we could expand this article and maybe add a bio on the characters + the cars they drive. Just my 2cents. I am re-watching the whole series starting from Stage 1, so please give me an answer if i should take pics or info on characters + cars -Leonida Sept 28th 2006

Guys, sorry about this topic, my cpu wan't working well and i finally saw the link at the bottom of the page. Call me a dumbass. Leonida Sept. 30th 2006

Missing: Second Stage coverage of Natsuki and Takumi's breakup

Second stage's synopsis doesn't talk about Natsuki and Takumi's problems... 10/13/2006

"God Foot"'s Scream while driving

I'm not quite agree on the following statement.

"He screams loudly while driving to release tension and prevent himself from making an error due to stress".

This explaination is right after a young racer commented to his friend that "God Foot" will scream while cornering, while normally people will keep quiet when focus on something. The screaming is like spirit booster.

The "God Hand" explain in mind that "God Foot" had no different with ordinary people while concentrate (Where he will keep quiet also. He screams is to prevent himself to be too concentrate on driving and lead himself to driving without using break (Which is the impossible move for anti-slip system).

According to the "God Hand" at their age, these kind of action is stressful for their body thats why he scream everytime he is cornering.

I can't stress this enough. PLEASE SIGN YOUR POSTS!!!! Anyways... It is very clearly stated by God Hand that the screaming is to keep him from getting too focused, at which point he might miss something he should have noticed because he is too inwardly drawn. --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 23:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed reference due to spam filter

I have removed the following reference because it triggers spamfilter (and therefore no one can edit the page).

<ref name="forum">http://messageboard.tokyopop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2285
 Tokyopop forum. Retrieved [[3 June]] [[2006]]</span></ref>

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Squilibob (talk • contribs) 07:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC).

I have reinserted the reference. There is nothing wrong with it. My guess is the user's computer, or some software on their computer, was acting up and it was blamed on the wiki.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 14:32, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

1st half of 1st stage end credit car illustrator

Can some tell me who did the car illustration at the end credit of the 1st half of series 1, as all I know is that judging by his illustration, it must be the artist who did the illustration for the covers of Hyper Rev performance guide books like this one linked here. It would help if anybody owns a copy of that book as it should say the name of the illustrator. Willirennen 00:08, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit Needed?

We need a plot update... has anyone read the manga up to Vol. 35? All I know is that after the battle with God Hand / Foot, Project D then races the fake Project D team, then Keisuke racing a Mitsubishi Evo VII, and Takumi racing a Mazda NB8C Roadster (he wins because the Miata spins out from breaking its rear wing). The next opponents will consist of a Toyota Supra (JZA80) and a MR2 Spyder (ZZW30) driven by Kai Kogashiwa. Vol. 35 also features a Honda NSX driven by two 'spectators', possibly future opponents.

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