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This article started life in 2003 under the name "Information communication technology", and the content was transfered to "Information and communication technologies" on 25 March 2009. Various pages such as "Information and Communication Technology" were redirects to "Information technology", but since 2008 or 2009 they have redirected to this article.

ICT : C stands for communication : singular or plural

This section has been copied from Talk:Information technology.

What does letter "C" in ICT stand for ? Communication (singular) or communications (plural). For instance, it's singular in United Nations site but plural in the United Nations Development Program. Which form is more accurate? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.95.94.6 (talk) 11:43, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

probably singular is more correct. -- bohan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.6.103.241 (talk) 17:25, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

BULL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.48.67.11 (talk) 10:01, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

The History of Information Technology —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.250.32.13 (talk) 12:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I am actually more concerned that ICT appears to be subsumed by IT. In fact each are fundamentally distinct and should be treated seperately.

In the global work that we did in this regard on DOT Force (The Digital Opportunity Task Force established by the G8 in Okinawa 2001) meant that we agreed that ICT stood for Information Communications Technologies, and therefore the acronym ICT is plural. As a result, the misleading and incorrect acronym ICTs should never be used. A common error which should be wiped out by education.

Furthermore, ICT actually requires a separate reference page in Wikipedia. Subjects related to ICT include ICT for development etc.

I would be happy to discuss this further. == Atenyi 21:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I think that ICT (Information Communications Technologies) should not redirect to IT (Information Technology) page. This is incorrect. it should redirect to [1], perhaps with a header which disambiguates. ICT has a somewhat different meaning in it's most common usage.. I have been reading about what we call "Learning Technologies" in the US - In the UK, and possibly elsewhere in europe, ICT apparently refers to: The use of computer technologies in the classroom, the study of how to effectively search for and find information (research skills), and studies of how to best integrate Computer-based resources into education. Take a look at [2] [3] [4] [5] and [6] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.182.34.36 (talk) 17:19, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

"Communications" = "Communication Technologies", so using singular is correct and using plural is redundant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.191.2.16 (talk) 02:50, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

I would like to share my thought Ginychin (talk)7:41, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

According to Cambridge Dictionary, “Communication” is a narrowed terminology that means “the act of communicating with people” and “Communications” is a broader terminology meaning “the various methods of sending information between people and places, especially phones, computers, radio, etc.”. It is obviously that “Communication” is more near what ICT covers. Thus, even though there is no clear academic definition of ICT at this moment, I think the plural form makes more sense.

(Reference: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/zht/%E8%A9%9E%E5%85%B8/%E8%8B%B1%E8%AA%9E-%E6%BC%A2%E8%AA%9E-%E7%B9%81%E9%AB%94/communication)

Wrong place for these items

The following are humanistic studies, they have nothing to do with technology.

• Advertising
• Journalism
• Mass media
• Instructional design
• Technical communication

Daniel What do you think? --Cantalamessa (talk) 21:52, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

The Internet

"One often wonders.."?? Those are not only weasel words, they don't even pretend to cite any authority. Who wonders? This is original research citing, uh.. the one, or something. What? --166.70.188.26 (talk) 16:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

And I just can't imagine (as it goes on) how, like, farmers, or old tyme people, n' stuff, I mean how did they survive without the internets to, uh, help their farming? N' stuff? Okay, I'm being ruthless, but that is just really a very ridiculous utterance.--166.70.188.26 (talk) 16:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I totally agree with both of you, but those sentences were not added by me, they are there just because of my politeness. Please feel free to modify themHallenrm (talk) 17:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

hai..

what are 5 types of communication technologies —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.54.211.205 (talk) 07:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Article title "Information communication technology" should be changed!

IMO the article title should be changed to:

Information and Communication Technologies

Can anybody changed it? (I don't know how to do it.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Otto Knell (talk • contribs) 18:49, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I would suggest "Information and Communication Technology" following the British Computer Society Glossary of ICT and Computing Terms, or "Information and Communications Technology" following the Office of Government Commerce website. And if you see a "move" tab at the top of the article when you are logged in, you can use that to rename the article. JonH (talk) 15:18, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Support for both names. I just wonder the current (and gramatically wrong?) name without the "and" remains here for so long.--Kozuch (talk) 10:33, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Communication Technology: The Alphabet? Moveable Type?

"Communication Technology" -- which encompasses MUCH more than just electronic technology -- forwards me to this article. It occurs to me, however, that even this article might / should mention that there are very early technologies (in the human timeline) that communicated information well before, say, the telegraph, radio, television, computer, Internet, etc.
What about the alphabet? What about arabic numerals? What about moveable type? Would this sort of information be suitable for this article, or does a new (Information Communication Technology) article need to be started? Begeun (talk) 05:15, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

the "Future"

I think this section should be deleted from the page. Even if the use of mobile phones / interactive TV/radio should become general instead of the use of PC's, it wouldn't affect the meaning of ICT. Advanced mobile phones and other intelligent devices also contain processors (information technology) and telecommunication capabilities. ICT is not connected to the use of PC's.

Besides, I live in a developing country, and PC's are becoming very widespread. Moreover, there is no such thing as "text to voice" technology, its official name is "text-to-speech". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgeza7 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

quality

I believe this has to be one of the worst articles ever written. For the love of god, I do hope that whoever wrote this is not native in English for if they are I truly fear for the future of English-speaking countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.102.39 (talk) 03:09, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Splitting and merging

I am against splitting to Telecommunications and Information technology. Parts from these articles could be in contrary injected into this article.--Kozuch (talk) 09:18, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

[This comment has been copied from Talk:Information technology.] ICT is communication between 2 or more computers, IT is seperate as it can be generalised as the entire industry of Information Tecnology or it can refer to the fact that the Information on the computers is not transmitted between computers. ICT is also the preffered term for teaching computer Technology at school, Collage Or even at university. I hope this may help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathan Bate 113.199.169.167 (talk) 10:51, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

This article is quite poor, and it is worse than some of the earlier versions. For a start, it does not say what ICT is. Many people use ICT as an acronym for "Information and Communication Technology" (or minor variations of the phrase), so readers deserve to be told what these people are referring to. I think there should also be an explanation of when the phrase was first used, why it was used (which I guess should mention the "convergence of computing and communications"), and the fact that some people use the phrase "Information Technology" to include telecommunications. For example, the BCS Glossary of Computing and ICT, Twelfth Edition says on page 3 that:

"Information Technology (IT) is the application of technology to information processing. The current interest centres on computing, telecommunications and digital electronics. In the UK schools sector, the preferred term is ICT (Information and Communication Technology)."

If we accept this view, then logically this page should be a redirect to Information technology and the term ICT should be explained there. But even if this is a separate article, it does not need long descriptions of the individual kinds of technology, as it can link to other articles which describe them. JonH (talk) 20:42, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to the improvements by Espoo in September 2010, my points have now been dealt with. JonH (talk) 17:05, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

The following information was added to the article by Espoo in September 2010, but it was removed in August 2012. I have copied it here in case the title of the article is discussed again. JonH (talk) 14:08, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

[Sometimes used with technologies in the plural. Originally, only information and communications technology (with communications in the plural) was considered correct since ICT refers to communications (in the sense of a method, technology, or system of sending and receiving information, specifically telephone lines, computers, and networks), not communication (the act of sending or receiving information by speaking, writing, phoning, emailing, etc. or a message containing such information), and the older form (information and communications technology) is still the only one recorded in professionally edited reference works (e.g. Oxford Dictionaries Online, Computer Desktop Encyclopedia, Webopedia, and Encarta World English Dictionary) and preferred by many style guides (e.g. Editorial Style Guide of the Republic of South Africa). Nevertheless, the form information and communication technology is becoming increasingly common and is now used in about half the books that can be searched using Google Books and is for example also used by the International Telecommunication Union.]

So, what exactly is ICT?

The article does not describe ICT at all. The statement in the definition: "By this definition, you could almost say ICT is technology's version of economic growth" is nonsensical. How can a technology be growth? It can cause growth, but it is not growth. So, what is it? Luciano Q. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.223.16 (talk) 03:26, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree that sentence (added by an IP editor with no other edits) is obtuse or meaningless so I've removed it. Qwfp (talk) 15:09, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

English understood by 10% of world pop, 80% of Internet content?!

"For example the English language, which is understood by only 10% of the worlds population, accounts for approximately 80% of internet content."

While there is a source attached to this claim, it's most definately incorrect, or at least incorrectly worded. Does anyone have an exact citing from the source? And is there an alternate source to the claim of 80% of the content? English is most certainly understood by far more than 10%, in fact, approx. 17% seems to have it as the first or secondary language: List of countries by English-speaking population —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexander L (talk • contribs) 19:43, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

No Tasmania?

The island of Tasmania isn't visible on the map, I'd fix it if I knew how :) thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cliko (talk • contribs) 09:33, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Irrelevant to the article. Uziel302 (talk) 16:09, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Messed up article

This article is pretty messed up right from the top. I will try to fix it. Please cooperate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pypo (talk • contribs) 18:29, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

The best way to fix the damage done by 121.241.113.194 to the introduction, is to revert to the previous version. So I have now done that, but I have retained the changes that you and others have made to the rest of the article. JonH (talk) 17:05, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

ICT IN EDUCATION (TEACH)

WITH ADVENT OF ICT WHAT ARE THE CHANGING ROLES OF A TEACHER IN THE PROCESS OF LEARNING AND TEACHING — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.178.97.197 (talk) 08:29, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect date for definition of ICT

One of the referenced articles (http://specials.ft.com/lifeonthenet/FT3NXTH03DC.html) is incorrect. It is footnote number 3, which wrongly states that the term ICT was first introduced in 1997, however I have by briefly looking into the case found at least a reference to it from 1992, in"Consuming technologies: media and information in domestic spaces" (1992, pp. 82) by Roger Silverstone. (http://www.google.com/books?hl=da&lr=&id=bqXBoC4kjKgC&oi=fnd&pg=PA82&dq=ICT&ots=e9FQomYxon&sig=MYwpRYAkPXgVSlrMIhb-S6uOB9c#v=onepage&q=ICT&f=false).

I am sure that the term itself is older than from 1992, however I think it should appear on the Wikipedia entry, that the date 1997 appears to be incorrect. If anyone can help alter this mistake or at least draw attention to it that would be great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BenklerRocks (talk • contribs) 14:24, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment; the article is now changed. JonH (talk) 14:08, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

ICT linked to IT

I believe this article should be linked somehow to the one named IT (information technology), which exists in many more languages. Even though the field covered by the latter is much more general, the relation between both of them is obvious. Therefore they should be either merged -so that each of them constitutes a series of different section titles- or, at least, or linked to one another. That is especially important when trying to find articles in other languages, which can be almost impossible if you only know one of the two names/acronyms (IT instead of ICT or vice versa). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.49.164.20 (talk) 11:20, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

There is link on the very beginning to the IT article, whats better than that? Uziel302 (talk) 16:04, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

translation process in programing

what are the reasons for translation process in programing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.89.44.252 (talk) 07:49, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Irrelevant to the article. Uziel302 (talk) 16:05, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Feedback

Many readers are dissatisfied by this article (see "View reader feedback" at the top of this talk page). The comments that they left suggest to me that most are school students who have been set the task of finding information about various aspects of "ICT". Wikipedia probably has what they want, but it is in articles on more specialised topics. To help them, I have added the "Information technology portal" to the "See also" section, but there may be more that can be done. JonH (talk) 06:56, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

ICT and the Society

how does the ICT affect the society? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.184.150.85 (talk) 06:20, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

telecommunication — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.48.84.132 (talk) 04:23, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Sabadash's comment on this article

Dr. Sabadash has reviewed this Wikipedia page, and provided us with the following comments to improve its quality:

I suggest to add a page "ICT Statisitcs" that could be listed among See also fields. It would provide informaiton about the main indicators of the world ICT development (ICT use, ICT skills, ICT education, ICT coverage, ICT sector, etc etc). Two main sources of data are Eurostat and OECD - I can provide more details. I am willing to help writing this page (for exapmple, by providing references to different resources) but I wouldn't commit to do it on my own, don't have time, unformtunately.

We hope Wikipedians on this talk page can take advantage of these comments and improve the quality of the article accordingly.

Dr. Sabadash has published scholarly research which seems to be relevant to this Wikipedia article:

• Reference : Federico Biagi & Smaranda Pantea & Anna Sabadash, 2014. "Are ICT Displacing Workers? Evidence from Seven European Countries," JRC-IPTS Working Papers on Digital Economy 2014-07, Institute of Prospective Technological Studies, Joint Research Centre.

ExpertIdeas (talk) 13:10, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Sabadash's comment on this article

Dr. Sabadash has reviewed this Wikipedia page, and provided us with the following comments to improve its quality:

I suggest to add a page "ICT Statisitcs" that could be listed among See also fields. It would provide informaiton about the main indicators of the world ICT development (ICT use, ICT skills, ICT education, ICT coverage, ICT sector, etc etc). Two main sources of data are Eurostat and OECD - I can provide more details. I am willing to help writing this page (for exapmple, by providing references to different resources) but I wouldn't commit to do it on my own, don't have time, unformtunately.

We hope Wikipedians on this talk page can take advantage of these comments and improve the quality of the article accordingly.

Dr. Sabadash has published scholarly research which seems to be relevant to this Wikipedia article:

• Reference : Federico Biagi & Smaranda Pantea & Anna Sabadash, 2014. "Are ICT Displacing Workers? Evidence from Seven European Countries," JRC-IPTS Working Papers on Digital Economy 2014-07, Institute of Prospective Technological Studies, Joint Research Centre.

ExpertIdeas (talk) 13:10, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

CIT

How does ICT relate to CIT - Computer and Information Technology as used by the IEEE for their annual conference since 2000 and in my experience since the 1980s in uk education? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.95.7.86 (talk) 01:53, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

ICT

which ways can ICT assist us in the work — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.205.99.92 (talk • contribs) 06:40, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Clarification of: "However, definition, as...

User:Jhertel asked for clarification of this sentence: "However, definition, as "the concepts, methods and a involved in ICT are constantly evolving on an almost daily basis."

The referenced article for this sentence says a few things on the difficulty of defining ICT due to the changing nature of the field: "As you can see, ICT is a broad and fast-changing subject.", and "Because the concepts, methods and applications involved in ICT are constantly evolving on an almost daily basis and it's difficult to keep up."

Perhaps this sentence will work:

ICT is a broad subject and the concepts are evolving.

Phersh (talk) 05:04, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

°≥ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4043:602:DEFD:11FC:6214:2C01:F44B (talk) 12:03, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

i want to say we can say that FREE FIRE is also an example of ICT

Use ICT to Achieve Education and Development Goals

Technology should be used to address areas where system capacity is poor, schools are underperforming or there are gaps in student learning. A well-designed technology solution can be used to disseminate resources, connect students to information, enhance teachers’ practices and students’ performance in all subject areas, improve school management and support data-driven policymaking. EballARani0 (talk) 09:42, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Typo in main figure

In the main figure, towards the upper left hand side, there is a box labeled "true falls." This should be "True False" or "True/False." Drchaos31415 (talk) 04:37, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion for Clarity in ICT Definition

While the definition provided in this article is suffice, I think it could be made more broad to emphasize the broad scope that ICT has. ICT is not exclusive to the digital media. ICT can encompass paper and other analog communication. This article explains any type of medium that delivers information -communicates information- can be considered ICT. This is includes things like paper handouts. Cited source: Ozdamli, F., & Ozdal, H. (2015). Life-long learning competence perceptions of the teachers and abilities in using information-communication technologies. Procedia - Social and Behavioral Sciences, 182, 718–725. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.sbspro.2015.04.819 GoKnights2021 (talk) 01:31, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

References

new student

i want learen ict for every thing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1810:2815:DC00:F15E:15B7:3E02:8F2B (talk) 11:03, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

It

What is the use of IT and ICT in tele communication 223.181.114.37 (talk) 11:50, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

English

In 49.126.134.145 (talk) 10:59, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

ICT

Information and communications technology (ICT) is an extensional term for information technology (IT) that stresses the role of unified communications[1] and the integration of telecommunications (telephone lines and wireless signals) and computers, as well as necessary enterprise software, middleware, storage and audiovisual, that enable users to access, store, transmit, understand and manipulate information. 130.105.167.80 (talk) 10:32, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

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ICT

This article started life in 2003 under the name "Information communication technology", and the content was transferred to "Information and communication technologies" on 25 March 2009. Various pages such as "Information and Communication Technology" were redirects to "Information technology", but since 2008 or 2009 they have redirected to this article 103.225.56.207 (talk) 15:03, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

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TVL

TVL 64.226.63.241 (talk) 16:50, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

ict 197.231.239.57 (talk) 20:32, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

DATAMEX

I suggest to add a page "ICT Statisitcs" that could be listed among See also fields. It would provide informaiton about the main indicators of the world ICT development (ICT use, ICT skills, ICT education, ICT coverage, ICT sector, etc etc). Two main sources of data are Eurostat and OECD - I can provide more details. I am willing to help writing this page (for exapmple, by providing references to different resources) but I wouldn't commit to do it on my own, don't have time, unformtunately. 112.210.232.20 (talk) 02:02, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

what is affect of technology

@ 112.205.118.103 (talk) 10:10, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Requesting an edit

I think it would be relevant to add somewhere in the Introduction section (or somewhere else if it seems more convenient) the following statement from a reliable source (scholarly papers). What do you think? I have a COI with de Rassenfosse. (See my userpage)

At the technological level, the ICT sector has emerged as the leading domain for R&D collaborations and technology sourcing. AM13prime (talk) 13:54, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

@AM13prime As the provided source is mainly speaking about R&D collaborations, technology sourcing, and patent transfers between developed and developing nations, and the article is about ICT in general, the lead section would not be the best place for this information. Do you have an alternate location in mind for this? Please advise. Regards,  Spintendo  15:25, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

@Spintendo Yes, I agree with you, but at first sight I didn't find a more approriate location. Now, when I re-read the article, maybe an alternative location could be the section "In science", mentionning that there are applications of ICTs in R&D, but I still wouldn't say it is a perfect fit, but it might be included below the list of applications. Otherwise, as there are already sections dedicated to how ICT is integrated in different domains such as education, health care, etc, maybe it can be considered to add a new section for technology and mention it there. Regards AM13prime (talk) 09:27, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Please establish a consensus with editors engaged in the subject area before using the {{Edit COI}} template for this proposed change. I personally don't have a problem with making this edit, however, looking at the edit history I can see that this information was previously added back in April but was immediately reverted. Because of this, the COI editor should seek to establish a consensus with local editors here on the talk page before activating the request template. I would first suggest contacting the editor who reverted the change to see what input they might have on what would make the edit acceptable. That discussion can begin here on the talk page below this post. Regards,  Spintendo  18:59, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

References

ICT tools and their functions

Activity of intergration in relation to photography and photocopying 41.210.159.223 (talk) 18:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)