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Review and update

I'm going to attempt to review this article over the next few weeks. Reasons are:-

many citations and most of the text are <10 years old , they don't reflect recent developments
some citations are now deadlinks
uncited content
undue weight in some areas

Other faults as listed in Talk:Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H5N1/GA1

Bob (talk) 15:52, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recentism

Thank you User:Robertpedley for tackling {{update}}.

However, I am concerned that too much historical information was removed in [1] and [2]. That content had references. Wikipedia didn't delete other historical information about viruses such as smallpox and the covid variants. If to restore the historical perspective, we need to create a new page, we should. 174.92.25.207 (talk) 23:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@174.92.25.207 thanks for keeping an eye on my edits.

I think "recentism " would apply if I had removed something historical and inserted something similar but recent. I haven't done that in either of those edits.

However I have removed chunks of material which had been placed by other editors, probably some time ago . I don't like to remove other people's work; the edit summary gives a brief reason but I'll explain why in more detail.

Edit [1] removed a chunk of material dated around 2007 headed "Genetics". This may have been valid at the time, but it is no longer so; the virus has mutated considerably of the last 17 years. It is based on primary information sources, so Wikipedia:No original research may apply. Certainly no secondary sources contain this amount of detail. Quite a lot of it would not be accessible to the majority of potential readers. (Wikipedia:Make technical articles understandable). There is an excellent page H5N1 genetic structure which does this. A very brief outline is all that is needed here.

For edit [2] - the first paragraph is uncited and contains several inaccuracies (e.g. It is not known to affect humans at all."). The remainder is a an uncited and incomplete list of LPAI detections (mostly in North America) between 1966 and 2009 (there were thousands of detections worldwide).

In both cases, I have attempted add content which which summarises relevant parts of the history, and gives an accessible explanation of the current position. It's still work in progress - I'll get back to it in a couple of days. I'm sure improvements are possible! Bob (talk) 20:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah ok, if There is an excellent page H5N1 genetic structure which does this, then it's nice that you are removing information duplicated on other pages.

But on that article, even if the virus has mutated considerably of the last 17 years, I am interested in learning from things like the historical SARS-CoV-2_Alpha_variant even if the most prevalent variant is now SARS-CoV-2_Omicron_variant. Though given that other subarticle, I am now happy with the removal from this page so that readers get the most accurate and relevant medical information and I agree with you on the WP:PRIMARY, WP:MTAU, and outline points.

For the 2nd edit, I agree paragraph 1 is inaccurate and the list is incomplete. I was initially concerned because I saw a lot of paragraphs with <ref>s deleted. I usually can't see how WP:SYNTH applies to lists, but OK this list didn't appear to be of quality.

I was going to but won't restore the 2007 phylogenetics because it would be better as a cladogram image; I wonder if there are any recent studies. I won't readd, because I've never heard of, influenzareport (self-published?) although it could have been considered reliable in the past. The only thing I think worth restoring might be the WHO/USDA thing to Global_spread_of_H5N1_in_2006. 174.92.25.207 (talk) 22:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PS You should get a user ID! "Many IP addresses change periodically, and are often shared by several users. If you are an IP user, you may create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other IP users. Registering also hides your IP address." - Bob (talk) 20:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]