Talk:Ince Blundell Hall

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Date	Process	Result
November 14, 2014	Good article nominee	Listed

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Henry Blundell built two substantial buildings to house his art collection on the grounds of Ince Blundell Hall?

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Ince Blundell Hall/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Dr. Blofeld (talk · contribs) 17:18, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lede

"impressive" is usually a word to avoid but I think it is probably an accurate description.
- I agree and thought more than once about this, but as the Parthenon and the Garden Temple are both listed Grade II*, I think it is appropriate. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think the info that "it was inspired by the front of Buckingham Palace, London" is worth mentioning in the lede.
- The evidence is not really strong enough to include it in the lead. I have in fact amended the text in the body and put "evidently inspired" in quotes.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

History

"but in about 1790–92 built the Garden Temple, a building in Classical style." I think "he" should be added before built here.
- Done. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"A large bay window was added to the west side of the Drawing Room, and a new Dining Room was built at the east end. " -date?
- A vague date added (all that I can find) and a citation for the source. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"Five parachute bombs fell near the hall. " -can you elaborate a bit? -perhaps mention them in relation to certain raids and some dates.
- Sorry no info about this, despite another search. But I have expended the sentence to make it less bare. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
" Following the war the fabric of the hall and the estate deteriorated, and in 1960 it was decided to sell them." -"fabric" I think is a little confusing here, it makes it look as if you mean selling the actual fabric of the hall! You don't mean that now do you?
- Reworded, so I hope it now makes sense. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
pipe link to for Archdiocese to Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Liverpool, it's currently a redirect.
- Done. But during a FLC review I was asked to take out the piped links; referring to redirects, the reviewer said that is what they are for! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Architecture

Give first names of Pollard and Pevsner.
- Done. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"There is also a complete scheme of Crace decoration" -not sure "complete scheme" is best here.
- I have removed "complete", although P&P do say "A complete and splendid Crace scheme". However this drew my attention to an error. I had said it was in the Library, but it was actually in the Gallery - corrected. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Associated structures

Please refer to each one as The Pantheon or The Garden Temple rather than "this" following on from the header.
- Done. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Are there really no photos available for the Pantheon? I'd be particularly interested in seeing a picture of it and I think it would much help the article.
- No, very frustrating. The hall, with its Catholic connections, has always been very secluded (I drive past it frequently, and there is nothing to see from any road). Being a nursing home, and being used as a convent, it has retained its privacy. I have found no recent free-to-use depictions of the hall or of the associated buildings, other than the gateways. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As you even link things like busts, perhaps like stuccoed too.
- Done. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"The frieze contains a Latin inscription, which translates as "In this place it is summer and winter all year round", referring to the fact that the building was heated by air from external fireplaces. " Can you give the Latin inscription in italics literally here for reference purposes?
- Done, but I have added this as a footnote rather than placing it intrusively in the text. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delink "marble" in Garden structures per OVERLINK
"Triglyph" in Gates too.
- Both done. Sorry I missed them. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Appraisal

"although Blundell's service block is "a rather plodding Palladian affair". -although "they consider" ?
- Done. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A fine article, excellent work. Easily passable once you've addressed. Thanks.

Many thanks for a prompt and helpful review. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:

B. MoS compliance:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

You're most welcome Peter. A comfortable GA.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:55, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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