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"Hugh Dennis: 'Kids today will be living with their parents forever'". The Daily Telegraph. 18 January 2014. Retrieved 19 January 2014.

Comedian and actor

I can't help feeling that there is more to Mr Dennis's career than Morris Dancing (even were it to have a good beat). Consequently I think the deleted material needs reinstating.84.68.235.10 (talk) 09:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

Does Dennis have a religion or not? For a more knowledgeable and relaxed Wikipedia- Nemesis646 (talk) 22:08, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unless there is a source for him stating that he has one (or doesn't have one), then it gets no mention in this article. Although it is widely known his father is a bishop, I'm not aware that Dennis has publicly said anything about his own beliefs, or lack of. Halsteadk (talk) 21:07, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Best known?

Is he really 'best known' as being one half of Dennis & Punt? To be honest I'd never heard of the duo. I'd suggest he was known best for Mock the Week or Outnumbered now.TomB123 (talk) 22:33, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I came here to say the exact same thing. And if he's known for Dennis & Punt, he's surely better known for Mary Whitehouse Experience which was of course beyond argument the best thing on the telly when it was on (although had hot competition from HIGNFY). --Matt Westwood 21:11, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Trumpet Playing

I've deleted this 16th July 2015 edit - I cant see any evidence anywhere that Hugh Dennis was a session player on "Would you. . ." or anything else. If its true then it needs to be referenced. Gilgamesh4 (talk) 11:26, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life: place of residence

I'd read that he lives in rural Sussex, and that was only a few years ago. I'd be surprised if he lived in Preston, Lancashire, when he works in London so often. I think that needs backing up with a source. TrottieTrue (talk) 12:29, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

TrottieTrue, the article now says he lives in London, and I agree that's very likely. But it seems to be unsourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:45, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Equity names

IP 76.35.218.33 has twice removed this anecdote by Dennis himself, which seems fully supported by two sources ^[1]^[2] If the text is "badly" written, presumably it can be easily improved. The anecdote on the Would I Lie to You YT clip starts at about 2:15 - a time code could be easily added. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:57, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have now added an online link here for the second source. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:30, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hugh Dennis telling an anecdote about himself does not constitute a reliable source. If there is no source independent of Hugh Dennis that verifies his claim, it should not be included. This is a very basic matter of encyclopaedic quality. 176.35.218.33 (talk) 22:33, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of edit warring you need to wait for consensus over this. Here's another source, and another and another. Views of other editors very welcome. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:40, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently you don't understand the situation. Those three sources do not verify his anecdote. 176.35.218.33 (talk) 22:45, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So what exactly would "verify his anecdote", if these don't? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:50, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sources that state the same thing as what he is claiming in his anecdote would verify his anecdote. Sources that do not say anything similar to his anecdote cannot be used to verify his anecdote. Are you trolling, or do you genuinely not understand that? 176.35.218.33 (talk) 22:58, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The item was added first on 23 February 2009 in here, referencing the television show Call My Bluff. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that he had to use his middle name, because there was already someone name "Peter Dennis" in Equity, seems beyond doubt. Here's yet another source: [1] Why are you actually disputing this? Simply because Dennis himself has recounted it as an anecdote? Martinevans123 (talk) 08:24, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You think the point of the anecdote was that his actual first name is Peter? A fact that at no point, by anyone, has been removed from the article, or in any way questioned? You really actually think that? 176.35.218.33 (talk) 09:04, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're now removed comments that I've posted here three times here, here and here, describing them as "crap", "irrelevant crap" and "off topic crap". Please stop. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:09, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This page is for discussing the article content. It is not for your observations about how I have edited my talk page, nor for your false claims about 3RR. 176.35.218.33 (talk) 09:13, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The point of the anecdote is that he had to use his middle name because there was already another Peter Dennis who was chairman of the Equity naming committee. I had assumed that was quite obvious. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:12, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And yet, you thought that a bunch of sources that say nothing about Peter Dennis's claimed role in requiring Peter Hugh Dennis to use his middle name were relevant? 176.35.218.33 (talk) 09:17, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This source from The Northern Echo, which recounts Dennis's anecdote, has also been there all along. Essentially you are saying that Dennis cannot be believed. How would anyone else know about this independently? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:28, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

His anecdote is a funny story. Funny stories are not inherently encyclopaedic. Wikipedia content must be verifiable, and in general, it must be verifiable by sources independent of the subject. A funny anecdote that cannot be independently verified is not valid encyclopaedic content. That he uses the name "Hugh" because a Peter Dennis was already an Equity member can be verified; that Peter Dennis blocked Peter Hugh Dennis's request to be allowed to retain his original name, by virtue of being the chair of the relevant committee, cannot be verified. The only source for that claim is Peter Hugh Dennis himself. Your failure to comprehend the point of the anecdote gives me very little confidence that you will understand this straightforward reasoning. 176.35.218.33 (talk) 09:51, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that "by virtue" is being explicitly claimed. It's just an anecdote, I'm not sure it necessarily needs to have any "point". You seem to be very keen to doubt my "understanding" of anything and to accuse me of "trolling", without any good reason. And yet you have total tally of 29 Wikipedia edits? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:22, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So just a few lines up the page, you thought that point was "quite obvious", even as you incorrectly described it, and now you think there is no point to the anecdote. Either you are just mentally all over the place, or you are trolling. 176.35.218.33 (talk) 19:55, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know what WP:AGF is? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:08, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You have removed the disputed content three times: here, here an here, in the space of 2 hours. In line with WP:BRD, the original content, which has been in the article for over 13 years, should be restored while it is being discussed here. You have also adopted an unnecessarily aggressive WP:BATTLEGROUND approach which is very unhelpful. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:23, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Dennis is also a notable actor. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:13, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you have now been blocked for 2 weeks for "persistent incivility and edit warring." Martinevans123 (talk) 10:30, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, it now appears that you are long-term troll BKFIP. I should have realised, as the interactions here were just as unpleasant as the last time our paths crossed. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:15, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Hardwick, Viv (7 April 2007). "A headline act", The Northern Echo (Newsquest North East): p. 26.
^ "Does Katherine Ryan think having a one syllable name makes you dim? | Would I Lie to You? - BBC". YouTube. Archived from the original on 2021-12-12. Retrieved 23 October 2021.

[1] Hardwick, Viv (7 April 2007). "A headline act", The Northern Echo (Newsquest North East): p. 26.

[2] "Does Katherine Ryan think having a one syllable name makes you dim? | Would I Lie to You? - BBC". YouTube. Archived from the original on 2021-12-12. Retrieved 23 October 2021.

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