Talk:Howard Bellamy (Doctors)

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Review: March 23, 2021. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Howard Bellamy (Doctors) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 April 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the fictional character Howard Bellamy from the British soap opera Doctors was based on a real-life army captain who quit his job to run a doctor's surgery?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Howard Bellamy (Doctors).

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Requested move 8 February 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 21:12, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Howard Bellamy (Doctors) → Howard Bellamy – Currently a redirect to The Bellamy Brothers; a note being placed at the top of this article would suffice. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 20:05, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, but Support Alternative proposal - How about having a disambiguation page at the basename of "Howard Bellamy"? Paintspot Infez (talk) 02:11, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator comment I would support this. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 10:12, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, no opinion on dab. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, but would support creation of the Howard Bellamy disambiguation page. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:39, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The Bellamy Brothers has way more views (8,687) than this one (91) and Google mainly shows the musician. Maybe move the redirect to Howard Bellamy (musician) and make the base name a redirect but otherwise I think WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT applies since its a duo and there would be an overlap if they had separate articles as opposed to cases in WP:SONGDAB where a non notable song has a mere mention in another article. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:21, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator comment the views of the Bellamy Brothers are irrelevant - the views of the redirect vs the views of this page are similar, despite expansion of this article only taking place last week. No shown primary topic here, at all. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 15:41, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I think that provides strong evidence that the Doctors character isn't the primary topic since even the redirect gets more (113) than this article (91) and redirects tend to get far less views than articles since most of the time only articles show up in Google and have less links etc so its quite possible that 95% (or maybe more) of the people searching aren't looking for the character so if anything this should be kept as is. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:48, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    - A difference of 22 views is not a primary topic. 220, 2220, 22200 views sure, but 22? Don't make me laugh... – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 17:52, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Howard Bellamy (Doctors)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 19:26, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:26, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Basic stuff and comments

Infobox looks good.
- Thank you! – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 21:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The lead should summarize the entire article, so mention info from #Casting and #Development.
- Done – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 21:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The storylines section looks good.
- Thank you! – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 21:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Remove the comma after Julia Parsons.
- Done – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 21:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also remove the comma after "the situation".
- Done – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 21:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Recite references at the end of each quote per WP:REF.
- Done – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 21:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also try reducing the amounts of quotations overall.
- Done – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 21:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Be consistent on either having Digital Spy or Digital Spy.
- Done – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 21:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link Digital Spy only once in #Characterisation.
- Done – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 21:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Add a serial comma after "Hollyoaks".
- Done – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 21:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Archive all sources (either manually or with this tool).
- Done – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 21:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Some Dude From North Carolina: Responded to your comments – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 00:01, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Progress

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 14:51, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that fictional character Howard Bellamy from the British soap opera Doctors was based on a real-life army captain who quit his job to run a doctor's surgery? Source: ^[1]
- ALT1:... that actor Ian Kelsey sourced an authentic army watch and shoe polishing kit in order to portray fictional character Howard Bellamy accurately? Source: ^[2]

Improved to Good Article status by DarkGlow (talk). Self-nominated at 00:50, 23 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

This article is a newly promoted GA and meets the newness and length criteria. The hook facts are cited inline and either hook could be used, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. No QPQ needed. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Timblick, Simon. "Doctors star Ian Kelsey reveals why he's leaving Letherbridge (VIDEO)". What's on TV. Future plc. Archived from the original on 17 January 2021. Retrieved 23 March 2021.
^ Kilkelly, Daniel. "Doctors: Ian Kelsey to leave Howard Bellamy role after three years". Digital Spy. Hearst Magazines UK. Archived from the original on 7 February 2021. Retrieved 23 March 2021.

[1] Timblick, Simon. "Doctors star Ian Kelsey reveals why he's leaving Letherbridge (VIDEO)". What's on TV. Future plc. Archived from the original on 17 January 2021. Retrieved 23 March 2021.

[2] Kilkelly, Daniel. "Doctors: Ian Kelsey to leave Howard Bellamy role after three years". Digital Spy. Hearst Magazines UK. Archived from the original on 7 February 2021. Retrieved 23 March 2021.

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