Talk:Hornswoggle/Archive 1

Name

Can we not call him Little Bastard, that's not a nice name really, and it is franky bad English. Just call him Lepricorn. Govvy 15:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

what the hell is a lepricorn?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I think you meen Leprechaun moron.--Altenhofen (talk) 03:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ATTACK Altenhofen. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 16:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is about Dylan Postl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.5.204 (talk) 22:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you'll have to take that issue up with Vincent Kennedy McMahon, we can't exactly make WWE stop using any particular gimmick. I wouldn't want to call him Lepricorn either though... -NickSentowski 17:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Little Bastard is bad English, but "Leprecorn" isn't? I think you'll find that it's "Leprechaun". And Leprechaun isn't his name, it's just what JBL thinks he is. 88.105.245.40 00:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On this Fridays addition of SmackDown Finlay referred to him as a Leprechaun. Govvy 16:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Look here: http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/ 6 down, 3 right it says "Little Bastard". If that's not good enough, perhaps this link text will do it for you http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/littlebastard/profile/ .

As I said, we can't change facts, and it is a fact that Dylan is indeed "Little Bastard".

-NickSentowski 02:52, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have expanded and added Leprechaun as one of his alias ring names, as Finlay refers to him as a Leprechaun as does JBL, which I feel is the correct thing to do. Govvy 11:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just prefer to call him "Dylan The Midget". Whenever I mention him to my friends, it's never just "Dylan". If you add "The Midget", everyone knows who you're talking about.

Interesting fact: Dylan attended Fox Valley Technical College in 2004, where he was training to become an X-Ray technician, before he broke into the big time. Whenever I thought about him wearing an X-Ray technician suit, it brought to mind the scene in Willy Wonka where they shrunk the gigantic candy bar. Midgets in radiation suits!!!

Yeah... Most of his friends just refer to him as "Midge" - NickSentowski 16:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone actually verify if Postl is actually Vince McMahon's son? PLEASE! DfraseR13 18:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.157.104.56 (talk) [reply]

MySpace

Everyone, PLEASE stop posting links to Dylan's MySpace page. I am a personal friend of his and I addressed it with him directly, he does not have a "promotional" or "public" myspace page. The most page most commonly linked to is his real page, but he uses it as a way of contacting people he knows, not to garnish attention from his fans. I'd compare it to handing out his phone number, it just isn't cool. - NickSentowski 19:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete it the because its there now.Roosterrulez 15:05, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Migit wrestler

Why does it have to say that? Why cant it say dwarf or little person? Calling a dwarf a migit is a) rude and b) WRONG (PEOPLE ARENT SUPPOSE TO SAY IT) Midget wrestling is the technical name for it, so that is why he is in that category.--Olla667 23:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zack Shadow 07:16, 22 April 2007 (UTC) This subject has always confused me. "Dwarf" and "Little Person" both sound a lot worse, and more demeaning, then midget..[reply]

Yes, you see, the term "dwarf" comes from the mdeical term "dwarfism", just as "giant" comed from "gigantism" or "giantism", and "retard" comes from "mental retardation" Calgary 21:56, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok people we are getting off topic this is not a forum this is a discussion page so i suggest we get something new to talk about. BIGCANDICEFAN 19:13, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

midget used to be the real term you know.--Altenhofen (talk) 02:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Minor stuff

The article says his first speaking part on television was on the St. Patrick's Day week 2007 episode of Smackdown. In fact, though, he had a scene a few weeks prior to that where he argued with Finley about not wanting to face The Boogeyman, at the end of which Finley dumped him in a trash bin. I don't know off hand the episode date, but I think it was also the same episode as the first second appearance of Mini-Boogeyman.

Also, I noticed that the article's only source of information appears to be WWE's official website. It would be very helpful if the article could also include some other, independent references about him. Generally speaking it's not a good idea to rely solely on one publisher for information. Has he ever been talked about or interviewed outside of the WWE website? Dugwiki 20:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zack Shadow 07:15, 22 April 2007 (UTC) That wasn't an episode, and it wasn't the first appearance of Mini-Boogeyman, it was at No Way Out.[reply]

Signature Moves?

What happened to the list of his finishing and/or signature moves??? The Tadpole Splash should be put down, as he used it before he came to the WWE dR 09:05, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cruiserweight title

Isn't he also the youngest cruiserweight champion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.24.196.121 (talk • contribs)

Yeah. 76.110.82.251 22:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kayfabe!

He didn't actually sign a lawsuit with WWE, it was all a storyline. Someone needs to mention that. 81.145.241.230 14:51, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Original Plans

Originally, WWE planned to ditch the Cruiserweight title after Hornswoggle won it, and introduce a new belt. Not sure if they're still gonna do that.

Ok you need to put this under the Cruiserweight Championship becasue this has nothing to do with Hornswogle even though he is the current champion have you read the rules this is not a forum this page is only for changes to be made to the main page.

Hornswoggle was the last Cruisorweight Champion in WWE. The belt is now retired. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.230.234.186 (talk) 22:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Signature Forein Objects

I am removing Pie,Smoke, and Knife because he has only used pie once and never again and I've never seen him use a knife and so far as smoke NO. BIGCANDICEFAN 19:18, 11 August 2007 (UTC)—[reply]

He used Mr. socko refered to as little socko (given to him by mick foley) so maybe we should put that down. I thought it was hilarious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.47.87.230 (talk) 02:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

he used it once, it isn't "signature".--Altenhofen (talk) 02:55, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Face Turn

Hornswoggle has started a fued with Jamie Noble and Jamie is a heel so heel vs. heel someone has to be face. So Hornswoggle should of turned face. BIGCANDICEFAN 20:24, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever is adding back pie and smoke I higly suggest you don't anymore and wait to see if he uses it again which he probably won't. BIGCANDICEFAN 19:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, obviously, Hornswoggle has been getting cheers from the fans, as well as facing heel Jamie Noble. That would mean he's a face. However, we don't exactly know whether Hornswoggle is still accociated with Finlay or not (we haven't seen Hornswoggle anymore during Finlay's matches, but he has acknoleged Hornswoggle winning the championship). We'll just have to see what happens next. 76.115.45.252 20:35, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Hornswoggle is still associated with Finlay, though he's also doing his own thing more often as well. It's like when Evolution was somewhat separate from HHH coming into WrestleMania XX (except they were still heels when acting apart from him). So basically, we can say he's a tweener (at best a faceish tweener), but not a definite face. 63.3.16.2 22:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hornswaggle

Since when, i've never heard anyone spell it like that.

Me either I am consaulting with= someone on that. BIGCANDICEFAN 19:43, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hornswaggle is a popular mis-spell, due to a Juggalo Championshit Wrestling wrestler named Hornswaggling Hillbilly. Падший ангел 07:03, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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Dylan Postl → Hornswoggle — Postl is more known as Hornswoggle. 2,320 Google hits for "Dylan Postl" and 134,000 for "Hornswoggle". —Davnel03 16:16, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

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Support, as he has now won a title (ugh) under that name then it makes sense. Darrenhusted 14:31, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

Comment: "Hornswoggle" is not exclusively this guy's ringname, it's also a word in itself, so I would say some or many of the Google hits are for that (see here [1]). --MarcK 23:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- At the same time, there's no other use for that name in Wikipedia. Mshake3 23:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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This article has been renamed from Dylan Postl to Hornswoggle as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 16:30, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can't just move the article on one consensus vote, I personally vote against moving which makes the voting even! Also I have moved the article back. Hornswoggle is a word and there are probably lots of references to it around the web for other uses. By default biographies are the real name of the sports person, actor/actress. You don't see any actor's articles named after a character, the same shouldn't happen with the wwe stars. You should just redirect the character name to the main article. Govvy 07:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in mind that Dalip Singh redirects to The Great Khali. Just an observation. Calgary 03:45, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And don't forget about Michael Hickenbottom, Paul Levesque, Terry Bollea, Mark Callaway and many others. All of their articles are named after their ring names, because they are more well known than their birth names, and that is the case here. (Sawyer 00:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Many actors use stage names and their Wikipedia article reflects this. It extends beyond wrestlers.Bngrybt 02:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is wikipedia which is a database, all other actor databases have him titled under his real name. There are set rules to follow when making a biography, the first thing is the title which is always the real name. First you follow the rules, as for Dalip Singh, he has film credits in India and US using his real name, The Great Khali should be redirected to Dalip Singh per standard rules. Same with the other 4, they are unique, as they have adapted their wrestling name to film credits. You can do it for the unique, but you should abide by the standard first. btw, Calaway has one L! Govvy 20:11, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Useless line at the bottom

Somebody please remove the last line of his bio, which simply states what was written much better a paragraph earlier. It's not even spelt correctly. This is so very wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.76.65.77 (talk) 08:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

spelt? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.183.129.177 (talk) 17:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC) yeah spelt, the t and the led are interchangeable on this word, and dude had a point (62.31.192.243 19:29, 22 September 2007 (UTC))[reply]

intro should say

hes on sd where hes the crusierwight champion but also appears on raw as vinces son —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.74.254 (talk) 12:00, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

uh melina did it so JILLIAN would get a title shot

i tihnk she did it so SHE would get a shot —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.74.254 (talk) 12:02, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Music

Dose anybody know what his opening music is? I cant get it out my head! Y2J RKO 23:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hes Da Ma, but this isn't really the place to talk about that. --ChuckCoke (talk) 02:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)ChuckCoke[reply]

Looking back

WWE has quietly removed the Cruiserweight Championship from the SmackDown superstars page on the official WWE web site. It is unknown whether or not WWE dropped the title altogether or just took it off of WWE.com because there is no current Cruiserweight Championship with Hornswoggle moving to RAW.

Hm....is it just me or did I predict this earlier (scroll up). Their plans were to ditch the title and it seems they're doing just that. Tyler Warren ^{(talk/contribs)} 11:17, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

umm, they haven't ditched it and if you look at the Superstars page it still says: Cruiserweight Champion : VACATED . Govvy 14:48, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hence why I said "It seems". Learn to read english, then come back and try again. Tyler Warren ^{(talk/contribs)} 15:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And where did you get that info from, most likely and unreliable source, WWE would have one of those little celebration of the title segements like they did with the Intercontinental Championship, and I think the Hardcore title. Since the 90's WWE have never "quietly" dropped a title.

Oh really? Mshake3 (talk) 04:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

it's clearly still has on the superstars page what I stated above Cruiserweight Champion : VACATED so I don't know what this Tyler Warren is on about. Or where is source info is from. Govvy (talk) 17:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vickie Guerreo (however you spell it, RIP Eddie) vacated it in her first week in charge, as a 'favour' to Hornswoggle. Race t (talk) 20:38, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anoying Push

Am i the only one who find hornswagle's push anoying, stupid, and a wast of time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.24.105 (talk) 16:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't the place to discuss whether it's annnoying or not. This is where we discuss any problems with the article, or if it can be improved. Thanks! NiciVampireHeart (talk) 16:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No recent events?

How come nothing from the last... month's on? I wanna add stuff but I'm short on time and I don't know where to start... 3pointswish (talk) 05:49, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some may say what's been happening isn't notable. Personally, I believe that it is. But let's wait for more opinions and a consensus. :) Gavyn Sykes (talk) 16:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

this stuff is very notable vince is apparently not hornswoggle's father! accroding to jbl (though we cant really rely on this guy for the truth) finlay is the true father of hornswoggle —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackjohnson15 (talk • contribs) 03:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a Forum, Jackjohnson15. iMatthew 20 08 01:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That didn't really read like a forum post to me. But in any case, it's kayfabe. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

he not in the hospital

my lil bro saw him at the aqarium today on a feild trip —Preceding unsigned comment added by The real rj (talk • contribs) 21:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

it's Kayfabe. As in him being in the hospital is just a storyline. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 21:10, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i relized that--The real rj (talk) 02:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)RJ--The real rj (talk) 02:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hornswaggle "McMahon"

Does a note need to be put on about the "McMahon" name now Finlay admitted he was Hornswaggle's father. Bam123456789 (talk) 21:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

he is not related to vince or filay, it's all fake.--Altenhofen (talk) 02:49, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

question

is he to be taken seriously as a wrestler

he may be a midget (no offence), but he is a real pro wrestler and a 2 time champ. so i say so, after all, he is still a grown man with a pretty impesive resime for his size.--Altenhofen (talk) 02:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

re debut

He made his smackdown re debut by defeating matt striker with assistance from finlay. Adster95 (talk) 11:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New move and foreign object!

He is now using a squirt gun and Asian Mist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.222.210.1 (talk) 13:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is not notable yet, as he has used them once. iMatthew _T._C. 20:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He used the asian mist a few months back and then again on the last SD!, so not notable yet. But he's used the squirt gun for the last two months consistently. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, then should it be added? iMatthew _T._C. 21:16, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IMO, the squirt gun is signature by now, yes. He's been using it every time he's appeared for the past two months (about 4-5 times, I think). Gavyn Sykes (talk) 21:17, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done iMatthew _T._C. 21:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But her just started using his version of a Stunner put that down —Preceding unsigned comment added by Princekong2 (talk • contribs) 19:28, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dylan Postl

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The result of the proposal was

Resolved

Who supports a move to Hornswoggle, per WP:COMMONNAME? -- iMatthew _T.C. 12:40, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. D.M.N. (talk) 12:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support RandySavageFTW (talk) 15:42, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Gavyn Sykes (talk) 15:45, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Adozenlies97 (talk) 17:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The alias is in-ring only, for those that notice all his charity work and other jobs, such as extra roles in films are under his real name. Govvy (talk) 21:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What are you talking about? -- iMatthew _T.C. 22:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:COMMONNAME SAVIOR_SELF.777 01:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Govvy, all his charity work was with WWE. And, the move complies with WP:COMMONNAME. SAVIOR_SELF.777 01:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Don't worry, I am always going to oppose the evil hypocrisy of wiki and the Evil Wrestling Project of Doom EWPD for short. Govvy (talk) 17:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done -- iMatthew _T.C. 10:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Squirt gun

He hasnt used the water/squirt gun in a while, should we take that out? --Harvey "Two-Face" Dent (Muhaha!!) 16:27, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback

Better late than never...I think the article looks really good, actually. If anymore information can be found about his NWA career and personal life, this might be a GA candidate. Nikki311 23:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Addition: some non-WWE/reliable sources would be nice. Nikki311 23:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another addition: the lead needs to summarize his career better. Nikki311 17:11, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FCW

When did he go there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.79.38.72 (talk) 12:12, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking

He actually spoke. Has he done that before? 80.58.205.46 (talk) 20:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, amidst the usual "animalspeak", he's spoken before, like the in-ring segment on the Raw following the revelation of his being Vinnie Mac's son. He said "It's you and me now, dad" and similar things. He does it ever so rarely during matches and stuff too, you just need to pay attention. Not that it's notable to the article, naturally. --Kaizer13 (talk) 05:15, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Little Bastard

Does Little Bastard really need to redirect here still? It was never his official name, and even as an unofficial name it hasn't been used in a few years now.76.226.107.45 (talk) 00:04, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was his official name. He was acutally announced to the ring with Finlay as "The Little Bastard." Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:05, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mark

About Mark Henry, I have been wanting to add his recent incarnation as Hornswoggle's cousin to his page, but I have been unable to find an official spelling for it. Mark Swoggle would be replacing Henry with Swoggle, whereas Markswoggle would be replacing Horn with Mark. Furthermore, I have read some reviews of the episode using a dash as Mark-swoggle. I have redirected all 3 of these. Even so, we should only list 1 on Mark's page, but we need to find an official source for the right spelling I think, especially if it is going to be listed on the article under Mark's Raw reign. It may be valuable to redirect Mark-swaggle, Markswaggle and Mark Swaggle too, because apparently this is a plausible typo, seeing as how Hornswaggle redirects here. The substitution of an 'a' for the second 'o' is understandable, I did it myself a couple times. This makes me wonder about the nature of Swoggle, is this the ending of a name, or is it possible a family name, and Hornswoggle has merged his first and last names into a single name for himself? Like if Will Smith were to call himself Willsmith. It furthermore begs the question: is Mark the child of one of Finley's siblings, or of Hornswoggle's mothers'? Tyciol (talk) 04:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

# 1.2.3 Mr. McMahon's illegitimate son; Finlay's legitimate son (2007–2008)

So who exactly was Finlay legally married to when she had Hornswoggle? This title is both too long and inaccurate, something shorter like "mystery son" except better would be a wiser choice I'm sure. Tony2Times (talk) 21:44, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the word itself

means to hoax, should it be noted? --195.0.171.250 (talk) 13:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Early 2007 Theme

I know that in his first TitanTron, he had a diffrent theme before "Hes Ma Da". If anybody has the name of the song, I can supply a link for the theme. WWEFan225 ^Message_{Contributions} 13:59, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Age

Anyone have any idea how old Hornswoggle is? Would be interesting to list that, since it's difficult to tell. Dictabeard (talk) 06:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alien Tornado

I read somewhere that he featured as "Barney" in Alien Tornado, a direct to DVD film. When you type in "Alien Tornado" and "midget" (apologise for that) it comes up with the wikipedia page for Hornswoggle yet there isn't one bit about it on his page. Shouldn't there be mention of it in the "Other Media" sub section?Protenpinner (talk) 12:59, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]