Talk:Honda CBR250R, CBR300R, and CB300F
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Okay, Seriously
[edit]How on Earth does this bike resemble a Chrysler 300? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.173.24 (talk) 23:56, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
- The answer is in the reference given - an article in Motorcycle Consumer News. --Biker Biker (talk) 00:50, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- Kerr's article also details some of the ways what he calls the "high wasited" car style is translated to a bike. He didn't mean that bikes directly resemble cars. They don't even have door sills or a "greenhouse" to be skinny or fat, as on the cars. So the style is translated in the headlight shape, direction of the lines, in the color scheme, and other elements, which I briefly summarized in the article. --Dbratland (talk) 19:08, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Redirect of CBR300R here
[edit]My rationale for keeping Honda CBR300R redirect to here rather than spawning a separate article is at Talk:KTM 390 Duke#Redirecting related bike here. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 05:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Continues to be sold in Japan post 2017
[edit]Per [23] the CBR250R is still sold in some markets. If the editor who changed the information to say it was discontinued is reading this, please change back or make the necessary changes to note the relevant markets in which it was discontinued. Otherwise I may do so soon to correct the article. - Bri (talk) 23:34, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- It appears to be only sold in japan the home market I can find no other market for this model. In all English speaking market it was surpassed by the CBR300R, also it appears to be the case in the rest of the world. The CBR250R in the japan market look just like the CBR300R same faring, headlight, exhaust and so forth. They do not sell the CBR300R or CB300F in Japan. Is it not just the case of this being a CBR300R but just slightly smaller displacement because of all the weird licensing laws in Japan? Though Kawasaki sells the nija 300 along side the 250 there. This mere fact could be mention, but for all intensive purposes the CBR250R was succeeded by the CBR300R in the rest of the world. Can you show some reliable sources that would contradict these fact, as Cycle World has reported for the US market, MCN also state 2011 to 2013 for the CBR250R. I have shown reliable sources for my contributions, I do not believe Wiki recognizes a blog you have shown as a reliable source, but all it states as I have already mentioned Japan sells a CBR250R that looks just like the CBR300R. 72bikers (talk) 02:09, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
- Non blog sources are really quite easy to find, here's one from this month:[24] New Straits Times. - Bri (talk) 02:44, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
- Ok that market is Malaysia correct? That makes two markets and I would point out that they also only sell the CBR250R and not the CBR300R. Can you find any more? Because we could just say then that the 250 was surpassed by the 300 in all markets except japan and Malaysia were only the 250 is sold and not the 300.72bikers (talk) 03:08, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Separation of CBR 300R from this article.
[edit]The CBR 300R is very much different from 250R. It is more like a successor than a variant of bike. Shouldn't it given a separate article? --Navinsingh133 (talk) 09:06, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- Besides 8.0 mm longer stroke, what is the difference? I've been wanting to rename this article to Honda CBR250R and CBR300R... or maybe Honda CBR250R/CBR300R, since it covers both model names. There is no principle that we must create a separate artilce for every model of vehicle ever made, and often quite different models are covered in the same article because they are closely related. For example Honda CB900F or Jeep CJ. Articles like Kawasaki triple are pretty decent and have a lot of potential, while Kawasaki H2 Mach IV or Kawasaki H1 Mach III are sad little stubs that struggle to get any better. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 16:22, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- Well, it looks you are right Dennis Bratland, the only changes made are body design, electronics and throttle bodies, engine, and minor transmission changes - which can be considered an update/upgrade or a varient, implicates that there is no need to separate them unless needed in future. I will keep tabs on it. The only plus point in separating them is that it will benefit standardization of other articles of 300 cc class It took me a lot of time to understand the diff. sorry about that!Navinsingh133 (talk) 17:05, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
- Cool. I finally went ahead and moved the article to Honda CBR250R/CBR300R, even though I still am not sure what the best title is. I'd rather have a name like "Honda ______ series", similar to KTM 390 series, but there is no common name between the two bikes to go in the blank. I sort of think Honda CBR250R and CBR300R might be the better title. Hence me dithering for more than a year and a half.
But it's better to just forge ahead with something even if it's not perfect. If anyone thinks of a better title we an rename the article again.
If Honda had consistently followed their naming convention for C###, CB###, CBR###, CL###, ###R and ###RR for the last 60 years, I would be more inclined to to standardize the articles. But they have made so many bikes that deviate from the convention that it's hopeless to wish for standardization. Instead, focus on making each article the best it can be, and remember that we have no intention of making an article about every model ever made. Only those that are notable. The lesser known models get merged up into some other article. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 17:20, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
- Since the article was originally based on Honda CBR250, we can name it Honda CBR250R series to overcome the "Dharm Sankat" but Honda CBR250R/CBR300R is just fine as long as Honda doesn't add a new varient Dennis. So, it looks like this matter is solved and now I can focus on preparing and upgrading the article to class C.Navinsingh133 (talk) 12:09, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Cool. I finally went ahead and moved the article to Honda CBR250R/CBR300R, even though I still am not sure what the best title is. I'd rather have a name like "Honda ______ series", similar to KTM 390 series, but there is no common name between the two bikes to go in the blank. I sort of think Honda CBR250R and CBR300R might be the better title. Hence me dithering for more than a year and a half.
- Well, it looks you are right Dennis Bratland, the only changes made are body design, electronics and throttle bodies, engine, and minor transmission changes - which can be considered an update/upgrade or a varient, implicates that there is no need to separate them unless needed in future. I will keep tabs on it. The only plus point in separating them is that it will benefit standardization of other articles of 300 cc class It took me a lot of time to understand the diff. sorry about that!Navinsingh133 (talk) 17:05, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Should the "CB250F" be included as well?
[edit]Should the title also include "CB250F" as well? In some countries where the CB300F isn't available, the CB250F is sold instead. Link to CB250F. 182.30.137.85 (talk) 04:43, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
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