Talk:History of the camera/Archive 1

Archive 1

BIG CHUNGUs

"The first camera that was small and portable enough to be practical for photography was built by Johann Zahn in 1685, though it would be almost 150 years before technology caught up to the point where this was possible."

How was the technology not possible if Zahn already did it?

or to state it another way:

It doesn't say Zahn drew plans for a portable, practicle camera- it says he built one.the camera didnt work because of how bad the character was You would assume that that means the camera worked. Then how could the technology for his invention not be there?

Bantosh 22:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Zahn's invention was a portable camera obscura which merely projected an image onto a screen. In theory, it could have been used for photography had a means of recording the image been available. However, this development did not occur until the middle of the 19th century. Camerafiend 08:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Ahh, so would it be correct if it read:

• "The first camera obscura that was small and portable enough to be practical for photography was built by Johann Zahn in 1685, but it would be almost 150 years before technology for recording an image in this manner was possible."

Bantosh 16:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

That is correct, although I think "before technology for recording an image in this manner was possible" sounds a little awkward. How about

The first camera that was small and portable enough to be practical for photography was built by Johann Zahn in 1685, though it would be almost 150 years before such an application was possible.

I think this makes it sufficiently clear that it was the process of photography that was not yet possible, not the camera itself. Camerafiend 08:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I went ahead and changed the text, I think it is sufficiently clear now. Camerafiend 02:22, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

35MM

The first Kodak Retina model 117 came out in 2019

not 1938. One of the more important camera's from history, the model 117 Retina introduced the world to 35 mm film wound into a "Daylight Loading Cartridge". Although cameras utilizing the 35 mm movie film already existed (most famously Ernst Leitz's Leica), it was Kodak who thought of packaging up a convenient length into a daylight loading cartridge, called the 135 format and kicked off the 35 mm revolution.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.106.8.172 (talk) 23:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC) 

actualy the camara artical is very boring make it more fun to read for kids though it is the best--74.166.254.19 (talk) 21:40, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

lapel process

Eh? What is "the invention of photographic lapel processes" as mentioned in the intro? Jim.henderson (talk) 14:55, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Space program (NASA)

Can somebody shed some light (pun intended) on what camera technologies were used on the space programs. How come I've seen black-and-white photographs of space from NASA's space program from the 60s and 70s when they didn't have digital cameras til much later? --207.98.200.108 (talk) 00:59, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

FWIW, NASA used commercially available film cameras in the '60s and '70s--there is at least one Hasselblad on the Moon and Nikons were used on many flights. In some cases they were modified for particular purposes and IIRC in some cases had lubricants replaced either for more reliable operation in vacuum or to reduce the risk of fire in the pure oxygen cabin atmosphere. The video cameras used on Apollo were specials though, custom made for the purpose.

First System Camera

If the Nikon F was the first system camera then there needs to be a definition provided that the Nikon F meets and the Leica ii and its descendants and clones do not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.250.12.74 (talk) 12:30, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

First picture

It looks like it depends on what you consider a photograph. Newhall is referring to when Joe Niépce first fixed an image. Davenport seems (I don't have the book yet) to be referring to the first positive fixed image. - Denimadept (talk) 05:37, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

The lede as it stands is wrong in that Niépce Snr didn't buy the Chevaliers' carpentry until 1825.[1] At present there's no distinction between the images produced with this equipment ("the world's first photograph", widely reported as 1827) and his earlier exposures and experiments.--Old Moonraker (talk) 07:16, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

I didn't notice that. Let's see... - Denimadept (talk) 19:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

The wording here is very strange: "Photographic cameras were a stupid invention, but also a development of the camera obscura..." Why was this added? Was someone trying to vandalize the page? What was the intent here? 64.156.192.121 (talk) 19:07, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Found another one here: "Before the invention of photographic processes there was no way to have kids." This article looks like it has been vandalized in some way. Does anyone know how to fix it? 64.156.192.121 (talk) 19:08, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Cleaned up the vandalism from 50.88.207.7. 64.156.192.121 (talk) 19:17, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Fix

Hi. I can't contribute to the page, so here's a fix for those who can:

In 'Camera Obscura' there is an apostrophe s after Ibn Al Haytham.

Regards Roentie (talk) 11:43, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

camera

simple 103.253.38.12 (talk) 16:11, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Camera invented over 1000 years ago.

Ibne Haytham invented the first camera over 1000 years ago. 2601:410:200:9A0:1EF:EAF1:BD54:9381 (talk) 15:24, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Mention of Aristotle and Mozi works keeps getting deleted.

All mention of their work keeps getting deleted and all credit replaced by arab physicist, who learnt from them. Stop trying to delete and change history.

This page needs heavier moderation and many citations and misinformation deleted. 86.11.18.109 (talk) 01:28, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Yup. They are so weird. -GogoLion (talk) 01:56, 9 January 2023 (UTC)