Talk:History of the Jews in Slovakia
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[edit]This is a very weak beginning on an important topic. The material referenced via the external links gives the reader a sense of how much more there is to do. In its current state, much of this entry is borrowed from one of those sources, with poor documentation. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 13:49, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
An unsigned contributor changes 'exterminated' to 'killed' in the first line, suggesting that the former is 'offensive'. Reviewing the Wikipedia entry for 'The Holocaust', I see the term 'exterminated' used there, as well, suggesting that the former is a consistent, recognized descriptive term for what was a devastating moment in the long history of Jews in Slovakia. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 14:02, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Sources for claim of Slovakia paying Germany to take Jews
[edit]- "For each Jew deported the Slovak government agreed to pay Germany 500 marks." last sentence of Letz, Róbert (2002). "Jewish Code". In Bartl, Július; Čičaj, Viliam; Kohútová, Mária; Letz, Róbert; Segeš, Vladimír; Škvarna, Dušan (eds.). Slovak History: Chronology & Lexicon. Translated by Daniel, David P. Slovenské pedagogické nakladateľstvo. pp. 253–4. ISBN 978-80-08-00400-8.
- "The deportation agreement contained two special provisions: one a concession to the Slovaks, the other an exaction by the Germans. The concession was a stipulation that no internal difficulties were to be permitted to arise from the deportations; that is, no measures were to be taken that would antagonize the churches to such an extent as to threaten Slovakia's internal stability. The extraction consisted of a bill presented by the Reich to the Slovak government for 'shelter, food, clothing, and retraining.' …For these fictitious expenses the charge was not less than 500 Reichsmark per head, or 45 million Reichsmark if all 90,000 Slovak Jews were to be deported. Since the total amount collected by the Slovak government in its tax upon the registered Jewish assets was only 56 million Reichsmark, the Germans were claiming up to 80 percent of the Slovak government's Jewish tax haul. As explained, however, by the RSHA, this sum was required because the productivity of Jewish workers in the beginning stages was always extraordinarily low. To the surprise of the Foreign Office, the Slovak authorities agreed 'without any German pressure.' Only later were the Germans to discover that the combination of a payment provision with a church concession was poor diplomacy, for now the Slovaks had been told in effect that they could save money by exempting baptized Jews." from pages 776 and 777 of Hilberg, Raul (2003). "Slovakia". The Destruction of the European Jews, Volume 2. pp. 766–92. ISBN 978-0-300-09587-6.
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suggested) (help) - "As Jelinek argues, that the Slovaks paid 500 marks 'to the Nazi authorities for every Jew they agreed 'to care for' is evidence of Slovak eagerness to have the local Jewry deported.'" from page 100 of Nedelsky, Nadya (2012). "The Second Republic and the Wartime Slovak State". Defining the Sovereign Community: The Czech and Slovak Republics. Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press. pp. 90–112. ISBN 978-0-8122-0289-2.
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suggested) (help) citing Jelinek, Yeshayahu A. (1983). The Lust for Power: Nationalism, Slovakia, and the Communists, 1918–1948. Boulder: East European Monographs. p. 114. ISBN 978-0-88033-019-0. although the quote appears to actually come from Jelinek, Yeshayahu A. (1976). The Parish Republic: Hlinka's Slovak People's Party, 1939–1945. East European Quarterly. p. 155. ISBN 978-0-914710-07-3. - "On December 2, 1942 V. Tuka negotiated in Bratislava with the German ambassador H.E. Ludin the details of the deportations—not only from Slovak territory but also from Germany, and the occupied Czech lands and Austria where several hundreds of Jews with Slovak Citizenship lived. On the same occasion V. Tuka enclosed the treaty concerned with the so-called colonization fee. According to this the Slovak government was obliged to pay to Germany 500 Reich marks for each deported Jewish person …to found 'settlement costs'." from p. 116 in Kamenec, Ivan (2002). "The Deportation of Jewish Citizens from Slovakia in 1942". In Długoborski, Wacław; Tóth, Desider; Świebocki, Teresa; Mensfelt, Jarek (eds.). The Tragedy of the Jews of Slovakia. Oświęcim–Banská Bistrica: Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum, Museum of the Slovak National Uprising. pp. 111–39. ISBN 83-88526-15-4. citing "SNA, fond Ministerstvo zahranicnych veci (MZV), 80212/1942, zastupitelsky urad Slovenskej Republiky v Berline."
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