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I suggest that this page be renamed as Timeline of Golf instead of History of golf. As far as I know the word HISTORY presents a narration or documentary of a certain topic or subject. While TIMELINE on the other hand cites a linear representation of significant events in a subject area. Moreover, I suggest that all other associated titles of the articles listed in here be renamed as Timeline of Golf (Year).

example:

These are articles presenting the Timeline of Golf:

   * Timeline of Golf (1353-1850) --> instead of --> Timeline of golf history (1353-1850)
   * Timeline of Golf (1851-1945) --> instead of --> Timeline of golf history (1851-1945)
   * Timeline of Golf (1945-1999) --> instead of --> Timeline of golf history (1945-1999)
   * Timeline of Golf (2000-present) --> instead of --> Timeline of golf (2000-present)

... in this way, all these articles will be indexed properly and in an organized manner. Thank you! Bu b0y2007 04:01, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Narrative text now applied, taken from the material in the main golf article. This seems to have been a controversial section, and I am still unhappy with the tone and phraseology of some of it.

Contributors to this topic must read:

We cannot allow undue weight to be given to fringe opinions or pet theories. Like it or not, Wikipedia can only report on what reliable, respected external sources say about the history of golf. --Mais oui! 08:21, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update of the Equipment development section

I noticed that the last update in the equipment development section pertains to the 1980's and I was wondering if anyone would be opposed to me adding to this section to include the more recent regulations that the USGA and R&A have established on the "trampoline effect" of driver faces. If anyone has any suggestions on how to further update this article, please feel free to comment. Techwriter32 (talk) 17:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC) yep i guess so i dont know but somebodys huh, but bubba watson won the masters in 2012 april 5th — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.221.208.34 (talk) 23:10, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Origins - Dutch Game

"The winner was whoever hit the ball the most number of times into a target several hundreds of meters away." Surely it should be least number of times?

No, they stood about 50..100 metres from a target (the side of a building, a stretch of wall etc) and hit a number of shots in sucession. The most number of hits won. WhaleyTim (talk) 20:51, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Being unusually bold I have removed the reference to Colf from the "early excursions" section. There seems to be a long running debate between those who say "colf is golf", those who say "golf developed in Scotland from colf" or that they developed in parallel from similar or different roots but share a volcabulary etc etc. Most of the arguments seem to based on indirect (and sometimes some say misrepresented) evidence. However I would say an expansion of section dealing with colf and the plausible relationship between the scottish and dutch games is probably called for. WhaleyTim (talk) 18:21, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That was a good move. But I have reinserted it, with several additional references to colf as played in the Low Countries, in the "Origins" section, where it is more appropriate. The Loenen aan de Vecht story does concern colf, not target practice, but seems to be apocryphal, which I have indicated with a reference. The other references seem to be rock solid... Rik G. (talk) 12:06, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Origins - Roman game paganica

Encyclopaedia Britannica says that one credible theory of the origin of the game that eventually became golf (and billiards, croquet, pall-mall, etc.) was paganica, an ancient Roman game spread around the Roman world by about the 1st century CE. We have no page on that game, Paganica goes to a placename, there is no Paganica (disambiguation), and even this page makes no mention of paganica at all, which seems like an obvious lack. Temp4590 (talk) 02:38, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Although I am verging into the area of incomplete original research and POVism, I have strong doubts about paganica. Certainly there are many golf books, articles, web pages etc of varying credibility that describe paganica as a Roman precursor of golf and other stick and ball games. However I have yet to find any credible work of Roman history that describes a paganica as anything other than being a ball used for exercise and recreation. I would be very grateful to find any contemporary Roman source that describes or illustrates paganica as being a stick and ball game. WhaleyTim (talk) 14:32, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1659: Golf Banned In Albany, NY

The Wikipedia article, Timeline of golf history (1353–1850), and many other webpages mention that Golf was banned in Albany, NY in 1659. I have been looking for a credible source for this without much success. http://home.eznet.net/~dminor/NYNY1650.html , published by an archivist and curator of a museum in the area indicates that it was Kolven, not Golf that was banned, which is consistent with the Dutch settlement of the area. Does anyone have any further information? Thanks. WhaleyTim (talk) 09:24, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Golf in China

Should be added about golf in China I guess, to have a more worldwide perspective. References: New York Times and International Herald Tribune. SuperSucker (talk) 14:36, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Golf course evolution

Suggest to add the word "design" (i.e. Golf course design evolution) Also develop this section more and include citations--Ksbochenski (talk) 01:47, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

Citation 53 USGA History: 1931-1950 refers to a page with a 404 We are sorry, the page you are trying to find could not be found--Ksbochenski (talk) 01:47, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Jock Hutchison or Walter Hagen ?

I am a Japanese person and this is my first time posting on the English Wikipedia. Please excuse my poor English. In order to create a Japanese version of "The History of Golf," I am translating the English version of "The History of Golf." I found some points of interest, so I will describe them here.

The Jock Hutchison article says, "He won two major championships, the PGA Championship in 1920 and the Open Championship at St. Andrews in 1921. His 1921 victory was the first by a U.S.-based player;" but this article says, "In 1922, Walter Hagen became the first native born American to win the British Open Championship." Which is correct?

That's all. Earthbound1960 (talk) 05:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]