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Water cutoff

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In March of 2014 the indebted the municipal water company began cutting off water to homes with unpaid bills over $150, or if the payment was more than 60 days overdue. As of the 15th of July, more than 15,000 homes had been cut off.^[1]

This was reverted by User:Rjensen, with the comment "not an encyclopedic-worthy topic (all cities do this routinely)". I disagree. This story was not only covered in New Scientist as I mentioned, but was on the BBC as well the other day. What's going on is not routine. Eric Kvaalen (talk) 05:46, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

there was no reason whatever given to indicate its importance. Rjensen (talk) 06:30, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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^ "Detroit water shut-offs condemned as threat to health". New Scientist: 6. July 19, 2014. Archived from the original on Sept. 5, 2014. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |archivedate= (help); Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

File:Bird's eye view of Detroit, Michigan, 1889 - . Calvert Lithographing Co..jpg to appear as POTD

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A bird's-eye view showing approximately 3 square miles (8 km²) of the central portion of the city of Detroit, Michigan, c. 1889. At this time in the city's history, it was a burgeoning home for manufacturing with expanding city limits. Waves of immigrants, predominantly from Europe, came to Detroit, opening businesses and establishing their own communities. However, infrastructure remained lacking; before 1889, only four of the city's roads were paved.Lithograph: Calvert Lithographing Company; restoration: Adam Cuerden

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Removal of Louis Miriani crime policies

I just removed a RS'ed reference related to Louis Miriani. The removed material suggested that only one crime reduction program (a stop and frisk type program) was responsible for a reduction in the city's crime. That could be seen as either WP:UNDUE as it is unlikely to be the only policy used, or WP:OR as it implies it was the only one that worked. I think the material is reasonably sourced so it's just a question of how best to include it. If the discussion is policies that reduced crime then others should be listed. If the discussion is policies that fueled the later riots then other factors should be included. Springee (talk) 13:52, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well yea, you're correct in your thought process. The program didn't work, and was actually a source of resentment, which was a strong contributor to the African-American community resenting Mayor Miriani. I'll try to reword it to reflect this. Feel free to reword it further, if my edit is insufficient. Kⁿo_wl^ed_ge B^at_tl^e 22:31, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Springee: - Okay, so what's going on? All of this information is relevant to the section, so I'm wondering what the issue is. Kⁿo_wl^ed_ge B^at_tl^e 23:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is how it is presented. As presented it adds one way that he was reported to have reduced crime. It is a controversial one (at least by today's standards). However, as presented it either is WP:OR since the mention of only that one policy would imply that no other crime reduction measures were either tried or the rest were not successful. That would be OR since we have no source that makes such a claim. Alternatively, it is WP:UNDUE since you are calling extra attention to that one policy but not other crime reduction policies. Either way, these issues need to be addressed before this information should go into a general history of the city. Perhaps the best way to get it into the article is talk about issues that lead to the 1960s race riots. It seems that information is very relevant to such a topic and that topic would fit into this article. The same general comments apply to the page specifically about the mayor. You could include the information there if you wanted to talk about things he did that added to racial tension. Springee (talk) 23:37, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "Detroit water shut-offs condemned as threat to health". New Scientist: 6. July 19, 2014. Archived from the original on Sept. 5, 2014. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |archivedate= (help); Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

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