Talk:Hinduism in Iran

vedic roots and connections

maybe someone should mention that...--Dangerous-Boy 11:01, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Do you know of any reputable source materials that I can use? Siyavash 19:47, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Andy 18:06, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

This is absolute rubbish. My cousin worked in Tehran and Yazd for more than a decade, returning to India 2 years ago. He told me that he never met any Hindu in Iran who had Iranian citizenship. The number is probably 1000 or less than that... all of them South Asian temporary immigrants working in South West Iran.

It may very well be "absolute rubbish", but it's the US State Department's mistake if your cousin's impromptu religious census collection is indeed true. Anyone who converts will be afraid to admit it in public, but even I admit that the percentage sounds a bit exaggerated, and it may be the result of a disinterested fact checker at the US State Department who decided to label every minority religion .1%, or one of us Wikipedians watching Hinduism by country while playing The telephone game minus the prudent exercise of Due diligence. Thank you for your concern. Siyavash 20:41, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

There were some Hindus and Sikhs from India who came in the 19th and 20th centuries in Southern Iran's Persian Gulf coast are, notably Bandar Abbas, for reasons of Business and trade. There might still be some there or in Tehran. Iranian religion censuses are not reliable for many reasons. They are just a door to door census. Many people are unreached, many are double counted, many to not answer or many make jokes with it. Moreover many claim that such censuses are fake. The fact is that those statistics are not based onany registration. Moreover not only citizens, but every body is asked, while large numbers of Iranian citizens in foreign countries are not reported. There are not much Hindus in Iran and have never been. Thease are all Hindu fundamentalist propaganda. They think highly of themselves. That is not necessarily bad, but they have lost the reality.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 16:15, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

the false claim is removed

no such a claim was made in the source http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35497.htm that there were 60000 plus Hindus in Iran. I removed that. I checked the other source., There was indeed mentioned that new Age style Hinduism seems to be the fastest growing religion in Iran. But allow me to doubt if the newspaper "Hindu" should be considered a neutral source for sucha claim.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 11:15, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

warning

Hindu/Indian editors really should provide a source for their claims,. Otherwise the enitre article will be removed. Because nothing here seems credible or sourced. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 09:19, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

An Article with no citation

This article provides no citation for several of its claim. I think this page should be deleted from wikipedia. The word "Hindu" is a Persian/Farsi word used to refer to people of India. The word "Hindu" originally didn't refer to the faith of India, but rather to its citizen. So, to say that 'Hinduism' was present in Iran in Middle Ages is contradictory to itself. --Theotherguy1 (talk) 02:28, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Ganesha

Now what's the relevance of this sentence:

"In 1993, a metal plate depiction of an elephant-headed figure, reminiscent of Ganesha, was discovered in Lorestan Province, Iran, dating back to 1,200 BCE"

An elephant-headed figure holding a quill, who is reminiscent of Ganesh as he wrote the Mahabharata (Nandita Krishna, Sacred Animals of India]. Regarding the Mahabharata:

"The oldest preserved parts of the text are thought to be not much older than around 400 BCE, though the origins of the epic probably fall between the 8th and 9th centuries BCE"

Skip the nonsense, this is WP:OR. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 16:44, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Many old cultures including Olmec, Mayan and also Indus Valley Civilization(seals) seemed to have provided importance to Elephant, any different thoughts are indeed possible after these few researches. Bladesmulti (talk) 17:09, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Sources

Persia had a huge impact on India; Ram Mohan Roy, the founder of the Brahmo Samaj, learned Persian, to pursue a civil career. So, why are there so little Hindus in Iran?

• Nikki R. Keddie, Rudolph P. Matthee: Iran and the Surrounding World: Interactions in Culture and Cultural Politics

Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 17:02, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Was basically stated in older versions, that due to 1979 Iranian revolution and its current laws on religion, the population of Hindus is low. It seemed like truth, can be written further if we have some citations stating the same. Bladesmulti (talk) 17:12, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

The topic is interesting: if there was such a huge impact of Persian culture on India, with a broad interest of Persians in Indian culture, then why are there so little Hindus nowadays in Iran? Somehow Persia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and northern India is a cultural unity, instead of India beng an island on its own. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:46, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

It was Indian influence on Persian culture as Zoroastrianism was influenced by Buddhism and Hinduism. It used to be a Zoroastrian land before the Muslim conquest, but today there are only 25,000 Zoroastrians in Iran, and almost no Buddhists. Their land was referred as Indo-Sasanians and there was a cultural unity but only till 7th century. Bladesmulti (talk) 11:43, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Ehh...you kidding me? Because both nations are totally distinct, that's why. The only reason why there is any notion of Persianate history in India is due to the fact that Persianized Central Asian Turkics and Afghans brought it to the Subcontinent (which subsequently, dynasties such as the Delhi Sultanate/Mughals continued with), and in prior times some of these Iranian dynasties stretched further up to the east, and some aspects were thus mingled in the frontier area's aka what is now Afghanistan and Pakistan. That foundation of Persianiate culture in India is thus a Turko-Afghan product and has 0.0% percent to do with modern-day Iran. Anyway those times are long long over, and it will never happen again, though the Mughals patronized this importation of Turko-Afghan Persianate culture in India up to the 18th/19th century, and made it the standard for the elite (as for your question why that guy learned Persian). A patronisation for centuries of a very foreign high culture. Modern-day Iran and India (and for the last 1000 years, since the Middle Ages) are thus absolutely distinct in all ways, ethnically, historically, genetically, religiously, etc, which is totally logical. They're as different as that most Central/some Eastern European nations are to Iran nowadays, although Azerbaijan is considered a "transcontinental" nation and the second largest ethnicity in Iran are the Azerbaijanis (and constitute the largest population of ethnic Azerbaijanis in the world) Asking why there are so little Hindu's in Iran is like asking why there are so little "Spanish or French ethnic Muslims". Simply, they may have had contact in the past, but they were and are totally distinct. Though one may find Islamic-style buildings still nowadays in Spain and at least Muslims ruled Spain for many centuries. Anyway, very simplistic question overall. - LouisAragon (talk) 03:21, 24 June 2015 (UTC)