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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

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Moved, 8 March 2023, to Hillhouse (investment firm), see discussion.
Moved, 4 April 2024, from Hillhouse Capital to Hillhouse Investment, see discussion.

Remove tag

Did some work on this page. I believe the tag can come down now. What do you think?Jiminycricket55 (talk) 12:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Needs Improvement tag went up again

Hi wiki editors, I am anxious to get this article up to the standards of a decent wikipedia article. Please advise what can be done to allay the fears that someone "close to the source" made a large number of edits, and that "original research" was done- since just about every statement has a decent source. Please help me to make this the best article it can be. As for the notability standard, judging by the number of articles that exist about this company and the special role it plays in the development of the Chinese economy, I do believe it is wiki-worthy.Jiminycricket55 (talk) 06:57, 12 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Improving this article

Since I have not heard from the editor who placed the tag about ideas for improving this wiki so that the tag can be removed, I will make the changes to the best of my ability. I am going to focus on the "investment philosophy" section.Jiminycricket55 (talk) 10:07, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested Edits

My name is Phil and I work for The Foote Group, a PR agency for Hillhouse. In compliance with WP:COI, I'd like to request several changes on Hillhouse's behalf for an impartial editor to consider. Please see below the requested edits. Let me know if you have any concerns.

Requested Edits

1. Requested edit: Add the following to the end of the History section: "In 2022, Hillhouse started its first real estate-focused fund with a total investment of more than $2 billion. The fund was called the Hillhouse Real Asset Opportunities Fund (RAOF).^[1]"
Explanation: This would add a large recent fund as a significant part of the firm's history.
Response: Done.

2. Requested Edit: In the History section delete: "GaoTeng Global Asset Management, a partnership between Tencent Holdings and Hillhouse, launched GaoTeng Asian Income Fund in November 2018, to focus on investing in government and corporate bonds."
Explanation: WP:UNDUE. I haven't found any quality citations regarding this other than press releases and blurbs.
Response:

3. Requested edit: Trim ("~~In 2021, it invested in the Chinese sportswear company Xtep.[18]~~") and add Xtep to the subsequent sentence instead ("In 2021, among Hillhouse Capital Management's investments were JD Health International, Miniso Group Holding, Xtep...")
Explanation: There's no reason to call out Xtep in a separate sentence and it reads awkward the way it is now
Response: Sources needed or the unsourced info may be deleted. Hzh (talk) 16:23, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

References

^ Cole, Michael (August 21, 2022). "CPPIB Boost Hillhouse Real Estate Fund to Final Close- Mingtiandi". Mingtiandi. Retrieved December 6, 2022.

Thank you for taking the time to review and respond to the requested changes. Best regards. Phil2600 (talk) 18:24, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A few more requested changes

Hi. I'd like to request a few additional changes to the page for consideration by an impartial editor. These are all minor edits to add where companies are based or clarify their size/origins. Additions are indicated in bold:

"As of 2020, Hillhouse was an investor in companies such as the Southeast Asia company Airwallex"
"In 2022, it invested in Indonesia-based J&T Express, a delivery company"
"Domestic Appliance business of Philips" -> “global domestic appliances business from Dutch conglomerate Philips”
"one of the largest women's Chinese footwear companyies in the world, Belle International Holdings Ltd"

Thank you in advance for whoever takes the time to consider the edits. Pinging @Hzh: who responded to some of my prior requests above. Best regards. Phil2600 (talk) 23:51, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You need to provide sources for the edits, the existing sources don't necessarily provided the information. Hzh (talk) 10:08, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 March 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. to suggested alternate title. (non-admin closure) ❯❯❯ Raydann ^(Talk) 10:14, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hillhouse Capital Group → Hillhouse (investment firm) – This page refers to the company using its old name "Hillhouse Capital Group." Hillhouse's website uses "Hillhouse Investment"[1], just Hillhouse[2], or "Hillhouse Group"[3]. Independent media sources sometimes use "Hillhouse Investment"/"Hillhouse Capital Management"(Forbes), "Hillhouse Capital Management Ltd." (Bloomberg), or "Hillhouse Capital" (Bloomberg/Forbes) interchangeably.

According to Template:Infobox company, the Infobox should use the full legal name, which would be "Hillhouse Investment Management Ltd". In terms of the WP:CRITERIA for the title of the page, sometimes different names are used even within the same news article, with "Hillhouse" being the only commonality and probably the most common reference.

I suggest "Hillhouse (Investment Firm)" as the title of this page. That would be the most consistent, clear, etc. It avoids confusion given the media is not consistent in its naming of the company and there are many other topics with "Hillhouse" in the name.

My name is Philip Lisio and I work The Foote Group, a PR firm representing the company. The move is not controversial as far as I know, but I anticipated this was the right place to request a move due to my COI. Thank you in advance for your time. Best regards. Phil2600 (talk) 00:22, 8 March 2023 (UTC) Phil2600 (talk) 00:16, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lowercasing of the disambiguation term boldly applied above, assuming that was just a matter of lack of familiarity with Wikipedia capitalization convention. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 14:21, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Hillhouse Capital. A quick scan of the headlines of cited sources and the company website reveals no uses of "Group" except in the legalese of the site's Terms of Use policy (as referenced by the nom). The company seems to primarily refer to itself as just "Hillhouse", but some disambiguation is needed. I found no other Hillhouse companies listed at Hillhouse, so Hillhouse (company) would be one way to do that. However, WP:NATURALDIS is generally preferred and would be accomplished by Hillhouse Capital, Hillhouse Investment, or Hillhouse Investment Management. It seems very common to refer to the company as Hillhouse Capital and not as common to refer to it as Hillhouse Investment or Hillhouse Investment Management, although the company website is at http://www.hillhouseinvestment.com and its legal name is apparently Hillhouse Investment Management Ltd. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 14:35, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Support this alternative Hillhouse Capital. Ticks all the boxes. Andrewa (talk) 01:17, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Largest private equity firm operating in Asia?

The article makes the claim that Hillhouse is the largest private equity firm operating in Asia as of 2021, citing this October 2021 article by Reuters: Wu, Kane (28 October 2021). "Hong Kong's PAG seeking to raise $9 bln with new buyout fund". Reuters.. The apparently relevant sentence in the Reuters article says "Hillhouse Capital raised $18 billion in the region's largest fund in August, a few months after KKR & Co Inc (KKR.N) raised $15 billion for its fourth pan-Asia fund, the data showed." I'm not sure how to interpret that sentence. I think the sentence could be saying one of two different things:

That Hillhouse Capital is the region's largest fund, and it recently raised $18 billion, or
That the $18 billion raised by Hillhouse Capital is the largest amount that had been raised in a single funding round for private equity funds in Asia, comparing that $18 billion to the recent $15 billion raised by KKR (without meaning to describe the overall size of Hillhouse's total portfolio).

Which is it? (or perhaps both?)

—⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:43, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Reuters article doesn't say that it is the largest private equity firm operating in Asia, so that needs to be removed unless a new source is provided. Hzh (talk) 10:32, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 April 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lightoil (talk) 01:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hillhouse Capital → Hillhouse Investment – With due deference to the previous discussion, I think we should reconsider. When I review the factors under consideration last year (website, legal name, recent news in RS[1][2][3],[4]), I'm seeing Hillhouse Investment as the predominant name.

I know it's soon, but would anyone oppose this move? Pegnawl (talk) 00:45, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

[Cole_2022-1] Cole, Michael (August 21, 2022). "CPPIB Boost Hillhouse Real Estate Fund to Final Close- Mingtiandi". Mingtiandi. Retrieved December 6, 2022.

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