Talk:Herb Mitchell (actor)

Herb Mitchell (actor) has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
September 27, 2012	Peer review	Reviewed
January 6, 2013	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 31, 2012.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Herb Mitchell, a former stockbroker who became an actor, performed in commercials as spokesman for a brokerage firm?

Current status: Good article

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Herb Mitchell (actor)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Khazar2 (talk · contribs) 04:43, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be glad to take this review. I'll begin with a close readthrough of the article in the next few days, noting any initial issues here, and then move on to the criteria checklist. Looking forward to working with you--thanks in advance for your work on this one. -- Khazar2 (talk) 04:43, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Initial readthrough

"He was paid a primary tribute" -- I'm not clear what a "primary tribute" is--how does it differ from a tribute?
- Took out "primary". --George Ho (talk) 23:36, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The lead could use slight expansion to better cover the article's contents--probably mention the Dean Witter commercials that he's best known for, another major part or two, and a sentence or two about the path of his life.
- Known for what? I don't think his roles were that big while he was alive. --George Ho (talk) 23:38, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - True. That's how the LAT piece identified him, and I misremembered the emphasis they put on it. [1]. It would be helpful, though, to identify one or two key parts in the lead (perhaps the Dean Witter and the Practice role); "appeared in theaters, films, television, and in commercials" is a bit too generic to be helpful for the reader looking for a quick summary. You might also mention that he moved into acting full-time after a start in finance, as this is an aspect his obituaries seem to emphasize. -- Khazar2 (talk) 23:45, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - I hope the current version's lede is better. --George Ho (talk) 23:52, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, definitely improved. I expanded it still a little more, and removed the tag. Does the new version look acceptable to you? If so, I think we're good to go. -- Khazar2 (talk) 03:39, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Much, much better. Even if it passes GAN, this article may still be edited without affecting the GA status too much. --George Ho (talk) 03:50, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Prose looks strong, and sourcing is good. I'm concerned with the article's length, though; this is the first time I've run into an article this short for a GA nom (3kb readable text). Let me briefly consult at WT:GAN if this can meet requirements. -- Khazar2 (talk) 23:17, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Checklist

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Prose is clear and correct. Spot-checking of sources shows no evidence of copyright violation.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	Article is brief, but so are the sources on Mitchell, which are well summarized here.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.	Pass--nice work!

Copyedit

Hello there. I have just looked over this article and made changes to fill a request made at WP:GOCE/REQ.

Here are a couple of unresolved issues I encountered:

"He appeared in commercials for stock brokerage firms, for Dean Witter as the company spokesman and for Paine Webber as the executive." I tried to make sense of this line, but I'm still confused. Do you mean he played the role of an executive in the Paine Webber ad(s)? Did he have any business or relations with these companies beyond actor+client?
"He auditioned for the television series M*A*S*H without success." When was this? You mention it near the end of his career, but the show ended in 1983. Maybe you should move this line to a more appropriate spot.

Bobnorwal (talk) 18:37, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bobnorwal, for #1, he did play roles of executive and spokesman. I've put MASH into different location. George Ho (talk) 20:20, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]