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GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 09:16, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

This has been in the queue for over two months, making a review well due! --K. Peake 09:16, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

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  • Can't any other parameters like children or spouse be added to the infobox; try genres too if you can source any in the body?
  • "(born c. 1961) is an" → "(born c. 1961), is an"
  • "She was previously a" → "The singer was first a"
  • Wikilink Bob Dylan
  • "and appeared on his albums" → "Springs appeared on his albums" starting a new sentence at this point, to avoid a run-on like current
  • Pipe compilation to Compilation album
  • "she released the albums" → "Springs released the albums"
  • "for other artists including" → "for other artists, including"
  • "Pet Shop Boys and Elton John." → "Pet Shop Boys, and Elton John."
  • Add sentences mentioning Springs' work in cabaret and her relationships plus children to the lead

Career

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  • "aged 5, at" → "aged five, at"
  • "When she was 17," → "When Springs was 17,"
  • "She appears on" → "She appeared on"
  • Pipe compilation to Compilation album
  • "with Dylan was her" → "with him was her"
  • "than any of Dylan's other" → "than any of his other"
  • I would suggest changing claimed to said per WP:CLAIM
  • Should you change "are published" to using were instead for the correct tense?
  • "Both of those, and another collaboration, "Stop Now"," → "Both the tracks and fellow collaboration "Stop Now""
  • Lowercase the Searchers per MOS:THEMUSIC
  • Why is "performed just once" at the end of the sentence when you have already mentioned this fact?
  • "this was on" → "the meeting was on"
  • "for a time afterwards." → "for some time afterwards."
  • "She joined Bette Midler" → "The singer joined Bette Midler"
  • "She contributed vocals" → "Springs contributed backing vocals"
  • Add speech marks around "West End Girls"
  • ""A New Life" with" → ""A New Life", with"
  • "b-side of" → "B-side of" with the pipe
  • "she toured with" → "the singer toured with"
  • ""Paper Money" and" → ""Paper Money", and"
  • Merge the fifth para with the fourth one
  • Pipe Birmingham Evening Mail to Birmingham Mail
  • Remove or replace the Evening Standard per WP:RSP

Personal life

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  • "claimed that the relationship" → "writes the relationship"

Notes

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  • Good

References

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  • All done exept ref 19. I note that there is currently no consensus on the reliability of The Evening Standard at WP:RSP. The information cited is the opinion of a reviewer, rather than any facts which could be disputed, and any alternate source would be no more reliable in stating that reviwer's opinion. Also, from my reading of the discussion on Wikipedia, most of the concerns about The Evening Standard as a source relate to the paper since (or shortly before) 2009, whereas this review was back in 1987. I'd argue that in this particular instance, it's OK the keep the article as-is. Let me know what you think. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 07:58, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Good

Final comments and verdict

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K. Peake I've amended the infobox. I also added a couple of external links. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:04, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]