Talk:Hedvig Malina

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This article was nominated for deletion on 5 January 2008. The result of the discussion was Keep.

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some extra and some cleanup

I think it worth a mention that:

-Korcek was the assistant of Peter Gabura, a funny guy, who thinks funny things about Hungarians :))

-a bunch of police officers shot at a puppet target, they called Hedvig and put the video about it on the web...

-the intresting similarities with the kidnapping of Michal Kovác jr. (for example Róbert Vlachovský, who changed the way of investication in that case and cleared the secret service of any wrongdoing)

-from solidarity, Stefan Hríb also quit when Korda was dismissed. Quitting from his many years running own 120 minute long late night talkshow at the 5th minute.

-There are at least 4 conspiracy theories existing, from the Slovak secret service to the Hungarian neonazis or Malina herself (nearly avoiding to shoot herself in the back, lol :).

That citation needed tag should be deleted from the line wich starts with Eugen Korda, since the source is one line above (the documentary itself stated this) since the line gives this claim exclusively to that documentary, asking for additional source is nonsense

PS: Viktor Polgár is not a politician, he's the spokesman of the Foreign Ministry of Hungary. --Rembaoud (talk) 00:10, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing whatever is worth mentioning unless reliably sourced. -- Hoary (talk) 13:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

semiprotected

As the edit history of the article revealed an unwillingness to consider alternative points of view on their merits, I semiprotected the article for two weeks.

Intelligent, educated, sober people are welcome to make reliably sourced, dispassionate edits to this article. -- Hoary (talk) 13:43, 29 October 2009 (UTC) amended 16:05, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you "semi-protect" the article and why did you endorse the bad faith revert by Baxter9 and condone his lies? Why didn't you let editors seek consensus here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.127.128.26 (talk) 15:05, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I semiprotected it to encourage the consideration of other points of view on their merits.

Precisely what in that edit is a lie, IP? Identify each lie clearly, complete with a reliable source for your assertion that it's a lie.

Anyone is welcome to seek consensus here. Please specify the manner in which I earlier prevented editors from seeking consensus here. -- Hoary (talk) 15:16, 29 October 2009 (UTC) amended 16:05, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Err, I simply meant that you had removed the section that I had set up as a place to resolve the disputes or controversial edits. -- 95.102.7.133 (talk) 15:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the thing is that I made a lot of valuable changes to the article, I copy-edited it, I removed no references or sourced material, I even added 1 more referenced fact. However, User:Baxter9 accused me od removing sourced material, which is a lie, as you can see from the diff. He did not even try to discuss it, much less seek any consensus here, he simply made a bad faith revert and included a false summary. Did you actually look at the diff? -- 95.102.7.133 (talk) 15:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No I did not. I saw an edit by an unauthorized derivative of a blocked ~~editor~~ username. Blocked ~~editors~~ usernames aren't allowed to edit. Now, IP, are you saying that you are User:Magyar nem ember aka User:Magyar nem ember1? If so, all you have to do is (1) either (a) log in as the former and appeal the block at User talk:Magyar nem ember (a message there tells you how to do this), or (b) choose a new username; (2) make a few edits over the next few days; (3) edit the article. Although it would be far better if instead of editing the article (under whatever username) you would get agreement here for the changes you intend to make. (Meanwhile, if you believe that User:Baxter9 has misbehaved, you're free to bring that up in the appropriate place, which probably isn't here.) -- Hoary (talk) 16:00, 29 October 2009 (UTC) amended 00:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was merely asking why you had reverted it to and then entrenched an evidently worse version of the article, with more POV issues, grammar and other errors, even factual ones. I was obviously trying to seek consensus here, but the vandal(s) would not discuss it. -- 95.102.7.133 (talk) 16:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya, Hoary's gone to bed, but I'm another admin. :) I've looked at the article, but didn't see any vandalism. I did see edits by a user who was evading a block on another account with an offensive username. When a user is evading an indefinite block like that, it's routine for us to automatically revert their edits. Hoary had no opinion on the article content itself. Now, 95.102.7.133, let's start over: If you'd like to participate, the best thing that you can do is to create an account with an acceptable username, and then we can continue from there? --El on ka 17:13, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning, world. Yes, well said Elonka. -- Hoary (talk) 23:59, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm noting here that the above user evading the indefinite block placed on User:Magyar nem ember is once again attempted to edit the article in the same fashion as before (2010 February exl. [1]). Please watch out for further possible vandalism, disruption & block evasion with regards to this article. Possibbly an indefinite semiprotection of this BLP article is warranted. Hobartimus (talk) 14:25, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and placed the article under semi-protection for a month. If the disruption resumes when the protection expires, we can re-protect, for longer if necessary. --El on ka 16:55, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disruptive edits or reverts

The purpose of this section is to discuss disruptive edits or reverts. Unfortunately, this article is not objective at all. Actually all evidence prooved Hedviga Malinova lied. Please consider all facts, not just hungarian neonazist propaganda. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.23.242.179 (talk) 13:10, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Slovak student

The problem with claiming that Hedvig Malina is a Slovak student is that the word "Slovak" can refer to both ethnic Slovaks and citizens of Slovakia. Therefore, this solution is confusing and hence not acceptable. However, I am open to any suggestion: how could we state in the lead that she is a citizen of Slovakia without claiming that she is Slovak? If the current lead is not satisfactory, then, please suggest something. Cheers, KœrteFa {ταλκ} 14:28, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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