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Cast breakdown

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Breakdown of each episode's main on-end billing, plus cast list. Actors in bold indicate the first appearance of the character, with the episodes they appear in after.

—El Millo (talk) 21:15, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tracksuit Mafia

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In the article it's described that it's Russian mafia. In fact, there's only one person who speaks Russian. There're also two Poles, two Native Americans (Maya and her father) and one Hispanic person (Enrique). I think we should fix it 91.203.36.130 (talk) 17:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's fine the way it is because it isn't based off of irl it's based off of Barton's life Sarah afton (talk) 00:10, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So what? It's just objectively not correct. The Mafia is, as far as I understand, under command of Wilson Fisk / Kingpin, previously under William Lopez's command, and there's only one person who speaks Russian in the Mafia, the other members are of different descent, like I mentioned before, so I think we should change it 91.203.36.130 (talk) 14:07, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
even though Kingpin's orgins are American the Tracksuit mafias is Russian Sarah afton (talk) 22:35, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
so therefore it is perfectly fine for it to say the Tracksuit Mafia is Russian Sarah afton (talk) 22:37, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Kingpin first originally came from Russia Sarah afton (talk) 23:09, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sarah afton WTH are you talking about? There's no mention of Russia in Fisk's origins. Like I said, there's only 1 guy who speaks Russian. The rest are 2 Poles, two Native Americans and one Hispanic guy. I cannot possibly be simply a Russian gang. It's just nonsense 91.203.36.130 (talk) 18:56, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If the producer said the Tracksuit Mafia is Russian then they are Russian do not remove it because it is well sourced Sarah afton (talk) 19:02, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Where's the source? Which producer said that? 91.203.36.130 (talk) 04:25, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Matt Fraction comic series which this is based on describes the Tracksuit mafia as Eastern European mobsters. Ivan, is the only Russian one. @Sarah afton: The series is based off of Matt Fraction's work. You have made two mistakes here. First calling Kingpin of Russian decent when there has never been a mention of that in the comics. He grew up in the bronx, being bullied for being fat is the first mention of his up bringing. So where you get that Russian connection is beyond me. Calling the Tracksuit Mafia a Russian gang, when it hasn't ever been described as such. Govvy (talk) 09:39, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ok Sarah afton (talk) 18:09, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
but that still doesn't show how the gang isn't Russian..... I mean they all sorta communicate using Russian Sarah afton (talk) 18:10, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Episode drafts

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If anyone would like to help with the drafts for the episodes, it'd be greatly appreciated so we can get them moved to the mainspace. Some definitely need more work than others.

  1. Draft:Never Meet Your Heroes - moved to mainspace
  2. Draft:Hide and Seek (Hawkeye) - moved to mainspace
  3. Draft:Echoes (Hawkeye) - moved to mainspace
  4. Draft:Partners, Am I Right? - moved to mainspace
  5. Draft:Ronin (Hawkeye episode) - moved to mainspace
  6. Draft:So This Is Christmas? - moved to mainspace

-- Zoo (talk) 15:11, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also would it make sense to move "Ronin" to Ronin (Hawkeye) to match "Hide and Seek" and "Echoes"? Or does that not work since the Hawkeye character is Ronin? -- Zoo (talk) 22:11, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ronin (Hawkeye) currently points to a disambiguation page to differentiate between Ronin (Hawkeye episode), Ronin (Hawkeye character), and other related articles. - adamstom97 (talk) 01:17, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looking through the drafts, I think they still need a bit of work before moving to the mainspace. "Never Meet Your Heroes" and "Echoes" are probably the closest, but they are really lacking in unique info for the production section and I don't think having reviews justifies the rest of the article not being there yet. The rest have quite a bit to go I think. I personally am willing to help get these over the line, but it is not really a priority for me at the moment. WP:NOHURRY, there is time to continue working on these a bit longer. Luckily (or unluckily, depending on how you want to look at it) we have a couple months before we will be focusing on the next MCU project. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:50, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
At least for "Never Meet Your Heroes" is it not in a position where it can be moved to the mainspace and have the production sections expanded on later? Maybe wishful thinking, but I was hoping that if it was moved, more editors would see it and hopefully help expand it. -- Zoo (talk) 05:25, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't fight to keep that one in the draft with its writing info and reviews, but it doesn't have too much else going for it when you consider that the development, casting, filming, and marketing sections are almost completely series-level stuff, and the music info also sort of applies to the sixth episode. I just think it is a bit borderline. - adamstom97 (talk) 07:03, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved Never Meet Your Heroes because there was an AFC request, but I agree about the assessment that it, and the others, still need work. ZooBlazer I appreciate you taking an initiative to help get these in the mainspace. If you are unclear what we are talking about in terms episode-specific, look at episode articles for WandaVision or Loki. I think those give you a good sense of what was added to them that talked about the episodes fully, not just the "series level" stuff Adam mentioned. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:21, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's not really a case of being unclear of what to add, it's more of not finding good sources of info to be able to include. -- Zoo (talk) 17:39, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The one thing I do have a question about is the image for the infobox. I know most episodes of the MCU shows use posters when available, but there aren't really episode specific posters for the first couple episodes at least for this show, except character posters. If we went that route I guess we could use Clint for episode 1 and Kate for episode 2. Or are we allowed to use official images released by Marvel? I know "Previously On" uses an image from the episode, so if not character posters, would something like this work? It's from Marvel.com's episode 1 gallery. -- Zoo (talk) 17:53, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Character posters do not represent episodes. If not episode-specific posters have been released, then there needs to be a pretty clear and obvious reason to add a screen shot to highlight something from the episode that needs to be highlight. Not simply to just grab an image from the episode and place it in the infobox. That has to do with WP:NFC rules. The Previously On image is there because it supports commentary about that moment in the episode in the article, and is a useful visual aid because that isn't a simple picture to visualize. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:00, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like there are a couple posters that could be used: this one was released after the first two episodes and could be used for the first one, this is for the third episode, and this is for episode five. this one and this one were released after the season finale and appear to be part of the same collection but they are not explicitly for any of the episodes. - adamstom97 (talk) 20:19, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I added the first poster to the infobox of episode 1. -- Zoo (talk) 01:14, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Hide and Seek" has production info sufficient to support moving to mainspace, so I have gone ahead and promoted it. BD2412 T 04:22, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Don't mind me, I'm just putting this source here for future usage [1] Dcdiehardfan (talk) 23:10, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There's also a ref idea section up top under the wiki projects. -- Zoo (talk) 23:31, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good, I already have ideas on how to get some of these drafts into mainspace. Dcdiehardfan (talk) 01:57, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Kevin Feige Production

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Is it worth noting somewhere in the article that the series was the first time Kevin Feige had a vanity card? Moon Knight is also listed as a Kevin Feige production and it looks like the same will happen for Multiverse of Madness based on the recent poster, so it appears it'll be the normal thing going forward. But overall this was the first series or movie listed as a Kevin Feige production in the credits, so it felt like it could be worth noting. -- Zoo (talk) 01:42, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You need to cite a reliable source stating that it's notable. DonQuixote (talk) 02:17, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've only found one reliable source, /Film, that mentioned it, and it did so very briefly. —El Millo (talk) 02:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This doesn't seem notable in the grand scheme of things, as it only boils down to just noting that Hawkeye was the first to do it. It's not like Feige started his own personal production company (that wouldn't really happen anyways). - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:03, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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