Talk:Havering hoard

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Did you know... that the first item of the Havering hoard, the largest Bronze Age hoard found in London, was discovered by a 23-year-old archaeologist only four weeks into a temporary contract?

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 17:35, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that the Havering hoard, the largest Bronze Age hoard found in London, was discovered by a 23-year-old archaeologist only four weeks into a temporary contract?~~ "London’s largest haul of Bronze Age treasure unearthed by rookie ... Mr Platts’ “once in a lifetime” find came just four weeks into the university graduate’s new job." from: Hoare, Callum (20 August 2020). "'Once in a lifetime find' London's largest haul of Bronze Age treasure unearthed by rookie". Daily Express. Retrieved 22 August 2020.
- ALT1:~~... that the 453-item Havering hoard may represent the large-scale abandonment of bronze tools at the start of the Iron Age?~~ "Was it a rejection of bronze tools as iron technology emerged?" from:"Havering Hoard: A Bronze Age Mystery". Museum of London. Retrieved 22 August 2020.

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5x expanded by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 08:31, 22 August 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Article is long enough and new enough...expanded 5x in past four days; no sourcing, copyright, or content issues were found. Both hooks have good sources and meet length and format criterion. Personnally, I like original hook better than ALT1. QPQ was done.--Orygun (talk) 20:59, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The original hook is more 'hooky', but it is cited to a generally unreliable source (The Daily Express). It isn't usual to attribute discoveries on large team projects to an individual excavator, and comes across as tabloid hyperbole to me. I would go with ALT1. – Joe (talk) 09:03, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Joe, I've switched the article to use this Evening Standard article. It was also covered by the University of York archaeology department. Would it be more acceptable to say "the first item of the Havering Hoard ..."? - Dumelow (talk) 10:53, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think that would be more accurate, yes. – Joe (talk) 11:16, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, formally proposing - Dumelow (talk) 11:22, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2:.. that the first item of the Havering hoard, the largest Bronze Age hoard found in London, was discovered by a 23-year-old archaeologist only four weeks into a temporary contract?

@Orygun: or @Joe Roe: could you review ALT2 please? Yoninah (talk) 21:58, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Looks good to me. – Joe (talk) 06:50, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Striking unused hook. Yoninah (talk) 11:26, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, but there is close paraphrasing from one of the sources:
Source: these objects were recovered from four separate individual and deliberately placed hoards within a large ancient enclosure ditch
Article: The hoard was recovered from four separate individual and deliberately placed hoards within a large ancient enclosure ditch.
Yoninah (talk) 02:11, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Yoninah, that sentence was kept from the pre-expansion article. I have reworded it - Dumelow (talk) 05:39, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Restoring tick per Joe Roe's review. Yoninah (talk) 17:32, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Where is it now?

The lead paragraph and the Exhibition section include information about where the hoard can be seen, but the information looks outdated. If anybody has a source for where it is now, could they review and edit the article accordingly, please? -- Frans Fowler (talk) 07:05, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]