Talk:Havana (Camila Cabello song)/GA1

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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 18:27, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Infobox

• Is the release date wrong? Should be the first time it is released so "August 3, 2017" according to the section of release history.
• It wasn't just NightBird Recording Studios studio, either mention all of them where the track was recorded or none.
• Remove the source as its name is listed below.
• Louis Bell needs a songwriting credit below on the section.

Lead

• Citations need to be removed and add to the body of the article.
• Needs to be re-writen after massive changes in te body of the article.
• Add genre of the song and its influences and something from the crtiical repection, could perhaps mention it made the cut of several year-end lists.

Composition

• Fix citation given and very likely to find more information in other reviews.
• If not add the release history or background of the song here 1 and 2, perhaps she gave other interviews (as I'm sure you will you can make a new section with both topics here)

Critical reception

• Billboard quote needs to be trimmed down, I advise the use of your own words.
• Popjustice ranked it 19th,[27] while The Fader ranked it 48t -> rank in what? The year-end lists you need to mention it. I would make this a new paragraph. On top of that, add the ones below.

Accolades

• This section is nothing, needs a written summary.

Chart performance

• Despite some grammar mistakes, which can be easily amended the biggest problem I find here is the lack of information. The song topped the chart in various countries besides the US, Uk and Australia. I'm not saying to mention every single one of them, but Canada, France and Ireland and among others such as New Zealand, Denmark, Netherlands and Germany could easily be added here, along with respective certifications. Take a pick honestly. I would strongly advise dividing in at least two subsections the commercial performance (change the title of this section as well).

Music video

• None of this paragraphs right now seem with enough information to have a sub-section, try to expand the background if possible and the reception. If not just remove the subsections. Keeeping the same paragraphs expet the last two, must be merged into one.

Background

• "Cabello shared a 26-second preview of the short film for "Havana" on October 22, 2017, through her YouTube channel" → A 26-second preview of the music video for "Havana" was posted on October 22, 2017, through Cabello's YouTube channel. (We can't be sure if it was her who posted, most likely not)

Synopsis

• Could be more descpritve in the beggining, taking into considertaion the Billboad, Rolling Stone source.
• The last sentence is supported by Billboard and Rolling Stone.
• Should mentio the dedication as seen on the Variety source.
• There are probably other websites who also describe different parts of the video.

Reception

• Music video reviews? critics probably you can find stuff on MTV, Idolator, Variety and son on...

Formats and track listings

• I would like a more clean up section it seems everthyhing is on top of evertyhing. We might do some changes later but I have to see if its is worth or not.
• Two collums would be enough.

Credits and personnel

• I would remove the Management sub-section, but you can leave it. I won't be picky about it.

Weekly charts

• Remove Bulgaria, Euro Digital Songs Hungary (Stream Top 40), Hungary (Rádiós Top 40), Mexico Monitor Latino, Romania (Romania TV Airplay), Singapore (RIAS) and Spain Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[. I have to do deeper research on "Brazil Streaming" and Japan Hot Overseas (Billboard)

Year-end charts

• Remove Hungary (Stream Top 40), Spain Top 50 Radio Songs (PROMUSICAE), South Korea (Gaon), Japan Streaming Songs (Billboard Japan) as these are component charts. I have to do some research regarding the Japan overseas.
• There isn't such a thing as Worldwide. That should be in the commerical performance as it was the best-selling single of 2018.

All-time charts

• Really? Just remove it.

Certifications and sales

• I would move the South Korea sales to the commercial performance section as they don't certify songs or albums.
• Can you point me in the Argentina source where is the platinum certification? Can't seem to find it.
• FIMI don't use the Twitter, but the original one instead

Release history

• Remove the dates with the sources for NRJ and That's Whatt I call Music: Now as they are used from compilation albums and not the song "solo", per say.

See also

• Fine

References

• Ref 121, 135, 137 143, 168 and 185 are dead, as well as "HAVANA ORIGINAL VERSION – BMI {{ ! | } Repertoire Search (info)"
• Try not to use so many Youtube sources, I'm pretty sure you can find xternal sources (articles from publications) stating the release of the vertical video, remixes, as well why is there spotify playlist? Once again external sources.
• Most sources are not well formater, ither they miss date, authors, work, accessdate or are not formate at all. Please "NOT EVERYTHING IN ALL CAPS" as you have several sources like that, the italian radio dates for example.
• Don't need to link the same work/publicatio twice for example Billboard articles, Youtube and Official Charts Company, for example
• Hollywood Life, dbase.tube are not reliable sources at all.

External links

• Fine

Overall

• Don't address any changes until I say so

  I am aware that you haven't finished this review yet, but remember; there shouldn't be any refs in the infobox and lead. --Kyle Peake (talk) 18:59, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: I'm aware of that, but some exceptions can be made. However, this is not the case. Nevertheless, thank you. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:10, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

• Taking into consideration the good article criteria, not only I can't approve this article, but I also have to fail it. To begin with, it is far from being Broad in its coverage as it is missing several sections as a background when information regarding such can be found as I displayed here, a personal and history release section in prose. Other sections are lacking various information. It is not Verifiable as some sources are not reliable and others are volatile such as Spotify and Youtube when they can easily be replaced. Some sections are not well written so a Guild of Copy Editors submission is advised after massive changes in the article.
• The changes I'm asking for will take over the 7 day period as they require research with verifiable sources, as well as a major expansion of most sections. Feel free to ask any questions. Kind regards, MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:32, 24 June 2019 (UTC)