Talk:Hangzhou Bay Bridge

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possible corruption

I do not know enough about the local situation to comment on possible corruption. I do know that it is a false statement by the Chinese government, and repeated by international media, that this is the longest continuous sea span. That assumes Lake Pontchartrain is a lake. It is not a lake, despite the name. I live on the Northshore and sail on Lake Pontchartrain regularly. It is a bay, with direct, unimpeded flow of water in and out of the Gulf of Mexico. The European who gave it the name "Lake Pontchartrain" didn't check for salinity! The fish in the lake are saltwater variety. The rivers and bayous that feed into it are freshwater, and do lower the salinity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.156.93.159 (talk) 13:35, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lake Pontchartrain is a salt-water "brackish" lake, having connections to the sea does not change the fact that it is still a lake, surrounded by land on all 4 sides.. Hangzhou Bay is part of the East China Sea.

"The bridge is shaped in an 's', so that the annual silver dragon is minimally affected." <--I see many refrences to the bridge's S-shape, (tho it doesn't appear that S shaped, but the Donghai Bridge certainly does) but no explanation of why an S shape is at all relevant to anything, esp silver dragons. 216.254.3.194 (talk) 21:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever is Lake Pontcharitrain doesn't matter now. Qingdao Haiwan Bridge has surpassed both to become the longest sea-bridge.DerekJoe 06:02, 15 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derekjoe (talk • contribs)

bridge complete

The controversy part of this article lacks references. I just came back from Cixi, Ningbo, and did not hear any criticism from the local residents. Actually people in Cixi City, Ningbo City and other neighboring areas are expecting big economy boom after the completion of the bridge. --Qing

The people in Haiyan I spoke to lately on the north side of the brighe are extremely proud of it too. The text is almost identical with Lupu Bridge and is political and biased with no sources. I think it should be deleted. --Bollweevil 11:09, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the brigde construction is now complete. --Rsrikanth05 12:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

... and it has finally been opened to public traffic :) --bonzi (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

--Besides the biases not in favor of the bridge, many of these claims are without quotes and unfounded. I also noticed immedietly that the controversy section is larger than any of the other sections. mm if you would like to watch a video on the production and many of the amazing things I've watched as well, go to said link --> http://you.video.sina.com.cn/b/12086157-1265992895.html The site is chinese, although there are voice-overs and the narration is done is english. It tells of how the construction was done, and well as the amazing technology engineered especially for this project. enjoy ^^ Winderful1 (talk) 01:31, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

about the building cost. the controversy part mentions the city, but does not specify which city. the bridge was built with a mixed group of private investors, banks, etc in and beyond zhejiang province. as far as i know, never has it been reported that the government of any city in china financed the whole construction. if any city had financed the whole project, the city would have long since taken the honor home and trumpeted. the writer of the wiki entry on the bay bridge needs to check again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.82.145.196 (talk) 06:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy

The controversy section has no source. Even start with "Critics point out that" but doesn't mention who they are. So, I'm moving that section to this page until someone find reliable source for those claims. --ClaudioMB (talk) 01:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Critics point out that such showpiece project is the proof of the city officials' superficiality, ^{[citation needed]} and ignored the real need of the city, causing the city and its residents to pay much more and much longer in the long run to recover the investment cost. As a result, the budget for the construction of the bridge had to be increased five times since 2003, and by the time the bridge was finally opened on June 26, 2007, the price tag has already increased for more than RMB 2.2 billion to over RMB 14 billion from the original RMB 11.8 billion, an 18.6%+ increase. ^{[citation needed]} In contrast, the local annual inflation rate during this period was only 3% or less, and the explanation of the local governments for the increased cost resulting for the increased prices of building materials was widely dismissed by the local population.

Corruption was another major concern of the project, especially for the steel used in the projects. There were numerous reports accusing how the corrupted contractors attempting to circumvent the requirement and safety standards: because the inspection standards for the raw materials were harsh, it was more difficult for the corrupted contractors get away by using inferior steel with poor quality, and as a result, the amount of steel was reduced in comparison to what was required by regulations and safety standards. ^{[citation needed]} These reports raised so much concerns that cadres of the local anti-corruption bureaus which received these reports, as well as many representatives of the local People's Congress and Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference at various levels had openly voiced their concerns and demanded the governments to investigate, and they were joined by some of the private investors. The local governments, however, only claimed that the investigation had revealed the problems existed, all of which were fixed, and this was cited as one of the reasons for the increased cost. However, as of 2007, the investigative report still remained off-limit to the public despite the popular demand for public access whoa Hangzhou bridge is cool —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.207.183 (talk) 05:37, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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