Talk:Hana Gitelman

Updates and imagery

Why was the live action image replaced/removed? 167.206.248.250 14:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

The graphic novel image of Hana is of better quality than the TV rip. Furthermore, she has been primarially seen in that format. When I came upon the...well...foolish changes made I took the necessary steps to correct them. Hopefully we'll have a better live action image to use after her TV debut. Once that happens, a switch and/or a gallery might be reasonable. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 14:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Is there any reason why it's not clarified that she was in The Mossad, and not simply "Army Intelligence"? That might confuse people who might assume it's referring to the U.S. Army. Big Head Zach 18:37, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I am going to edit it for Mossad because Army Intelligence as a phrase is misleading, and the link is simply incorrect based on the online graphic novels. 199.209.144.224 20:14, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Similarities to Other Characters

"Accusations have been made" by whom? Where? When? There are no sources here. A quick Google search using nothing but names turns up zero results, save this article. I'm going to edit it out for now, and would be curious to see citations before we put that information back into the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Valaqil (talk • contribs) 18:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC).

Hana is arguably a poorly-researched and nonsensical ripoff of the Y: The Last Man character Alter Tse'elon which, while stereotypical, is still mostly factually accurate. However, "arguments have been made" is a weasel term and doesn't belong on Wikipedia. If/when an Israeli viewer writes an essay about the similarities between the two characters, then maybe it can be added. It would be better if the criticism came from a source in the field, TV Guide or somesuch, but that hardly seems likely.

What I want to know is, would including information about inaccuracies in the character's background constitute original research? It's difficult to point to glaring flaws, but the impression is that Hana Gitelman is a character created by someone who knows very little about Israel and can't be bothered doing research. (Obviously, I wouldn't phrase it in such terms.) LeaHazel : talk : contribs 18:37, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

How is she similiar to Alter, despite being a tough Israeli woman? --DrBat 00:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe she is, maybe she isn't. I won't argue that since I don't know anything about it. At that time, I was simply removing the weasel words and unattributed information since that appears to constitute original research. Per OR, anything that "introduces an argument without citing a reliable source who has made that argument in relation to the topic of the article;" is OR, so your inclusion of that information in this article would need another source past yourself. Valaqil 14:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Picture

Can we get a picture of Hana in her new computer (dead) form- RREDD13 02:48, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

... There's already such a picture. --Pentasyllabic 23:11, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Age still active?

Next to her age, "(deceased)" is not listed as it is with other characters. I know her consciousness still exist digitally, but do we still consider her to age? I think that her description should be updated to something like "26 (deceased, see below)". Does anyone disagree? - Lore aura 15:56, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

NoGitelwomaner (talk) 23:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Heroes Evolutions

isn't Hana the driving force behind the 360 Experience/ Evolutions? I'm not involved in it, but based on what I've read and heard, she is- so I think something should be addded about that. But as I said, I'm rather ignorant of her involvement in that area, so perhaps someone else should do it- just a suggestion. The no erz (talk) 04:52, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Only one appearance

It didn't make sense to me that Hana only appeared in one or two episodes. That was kind of random, especially since all she did was convince Ted & Matt to help her take on Bennett, after which she disappears to let Ted and Matt take on Bennett. There was no explanation in the show given for her sudden disappearance. I would like to see more of her. She's even hotter then Ali. Twoheaded 07:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

She's more a character for the graphic novels than the TV series. Which is a shame in some ways, though I don't think she's as hot now that she's a disembodied presence on the internets - Madashell 10:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I have deleted 3 posts that followed the above comment which were not in relation to the topic of the thread, nor were they related to the improvement or discussion of the article. Per the banner at the top of this page, general discussion of the subject is not allowed. (This is not a reply to Madashell's comment) 23skidoo (talk) 06:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Any Objections?

To me completely redoing the article, eventually using some of the deleted bits, to make this article more wikiable.IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 06:57, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

For my own reference:

Character's background

Origin

Hana is a third-generation Israeli soldier. Her grandmother fought in the resistance against Nazis, and her mother, Zahava, fought in the Six-Day War. Both died when a bus the three of them were traveling on was hijacked by Abd al-Hadi Ghanayem and driven off of a cliff (the Tel Aviv Jerusalem bus 405 massacre). Hana survived, but was hospitalized while the funerals of her friends, mother, and grandmother took place. Afterwards, she was sent to a boarding school and a psychologist by her father. The psychologist's analysis cited that Hana had "abandonment issues" and "Asperger's Syndrome" and her time away at school only seemed to worsen this. Hana's anti-social behavior didn't mix well with trust exercises, which failed due to her fellow students disliking her. Eventually, Hana joined the army in hopes of becoming a paratrooper. Instead, she was given a "desk job" in Army Intelligence for Mossad because her commanding officer believed she only wanted vengeance. The comic confuses IDF Intelligence (Mod'iin), where it is possible a young recruit would serve, with Mossad, where it is extremely unlikely that a raw recruit would work during the time of IDF service. Her following series of promotions meant little to her, as she lamented her status as a soldier kept out of battle.

One night, while patrolling her base, Mr. Bennet approached her. She hesitated to shoot him, questioning if she was shooting him for security or revenge. During her moment of indecision, Bennet disarmed her and made a proposition.

Working for Mr. Bennet

Hana was taken to an unknown location in Alaska by Bennet, who had claimed that he was with the CIA. There, she was tested physically and mentally, ultimately resulting in the first significant manifestation of her powers. Hana displays an ability to mentally intercept electronic messages such as phone calls, text messages, e-mail, and the like. At first, she is unable to shut her power off, resulting in them bombarding her consciousness beyond her ability to withstand it. Bennet knocks her unconscious and she awakens weeks later. Bennet, at her bedside, realizes that she has been sending out the electronic message "Kadima" for some time while in her sleep. Bennet tells her that her vocal cords are dry after being asleep for so long, and she then begins consciously sending Bennet text messages to avoid talking, first explaining that kadima means "attack." (The word actually means "advance" or "go forward".) With this, Bennet tells her that she's ready for her first mission.

Hana is sent to spy on a base of operations for Dr. Henry Strauss, a scientist who developed a powerful killer bacterial formula. As Strauss prepares to sell his formula to the highest bidder, Hana waits outside, just close enough to intercept a message. Just as Bennet receives it, Hana is attacked by Strauss' guards and captured. Though she escapes the base's prison area, she's quickly confronted by soldiers and a tank on the outside.

Once confronted, Hana quickly says she's in the CIA, only to learn from her captors that there is no record of her being in that organization. They also tell her the numbers she provided were disconnected and the base in Alaska doesn't exist. After mulling over what went wrong in both her recent and distant past, Hana escapes.

Independent operations

After assuming the alias "Samantha", Hana lays low and begins seeking information about "the man in horn-rimmed glasses." Scorned and perhaps even blaming Bennet for her sudden manifestation of powers, Hana seeks to make him pay. Furthermore, she finds at least one other who shares her sentiment. She intercepts an electronic message in leet code from someone by the name of TEDDYBEAR616. She is then seen driving away from Missoula, Montana, on a motorcycle.

She next appears at the cabin of Ted Sprague, who is behind the screen name and is also in hiding. Hana reveals her powers to him and suggests they team up. She suggests that her powers will allow them to find Bennet and his associates, at which point Ted can "nuke" them. She then turns the topic to the marks on their necks. Hana shows Ted data relating to the hypodermic needle used on them, and hopes Ted's old job in pharmaceuticals can help. Suddenly, Hana realizes that an army of operatives are coming for Ted. Hana leaves on her motorcycle, telling Ted he can contact her by sending an e-mail to "anyone".

They meet up again to contact an acquaintance of Ted's, Matt Parkman. Parkman is reluctant to join forces with them at first, but Ted convinces him. Ted and Matt agree to surprise Bennet at his home. Hana, however, leaves them to find Bennet's superiors. She follows a wireless signal she believes to be orders coming out of Odessa, Texas. On her way, she is distracted by the signal coming from a hotel room, possibly in Nevada. A child molestor was preparing to film an underage girl stripping, while 352 potential viewers watched live. Hana quickly stops the man and lets the girl go, then sends messages to law enforcement agencies around the United States. As she leaves the room and police officers enter, Hana notices that the signal from Odessa is gone. Still, she is actually somewhat relieved that she was sidetracked in this way.

Current activity

In the graphic novel "Family Man" Hana is shown to be driving across Route 66 when she receives a message from Mr. Bennet. He wants her to help him "shut it all down." She agrees.

Through the events of "War Buddies", a six-part series, it is revealed that Hana is unsure about her choice to help Mr. Bennet. She wonders with kwaku ampadu nyarkoh whether she can trust him, but feels as if she has no other option. Bennet gives her one file to find that "would help [her] take down the entire kingdom." In order to get to it, Hana finds and sleeps with a man who has the appropriate level of clearance. She steals his swipe card, and retrieves the file from The Pentagon. As she reads the file, Hana discovers that there was a covert operation in Vietnam during 1968. Hana learns that the operation went awry and most of the team died, but the medic had the ability to heal others' wounds by touch. She learns through the file that the two survivors were Mr. Linderman and Arthur Petrelli. Hana breaks through Linderman's firewall and she learns that he has rigged the election so that Nathan Petrelli will win. She decides that she will unrig the election, but that she will need help from friends.

"The Death of Hana Gitelman"

Hana, existing as a conciousness in cyberspace. Art by Jason Badower.|thumb Bennet manages to track Hana down and enlists her help in destroying one of two tracking systems, while he, Ted, and Parkman deal with the system in New York. After having an "End of the World" party, a celebration people in Tel Aviv have when the world is supposed to end the next day to live like there is no tomorrow, Hana travels to China to board a Shenzhou spacecraft, so she can shut down the tracking satellite. As she approaches the launch site, however, she finds herself surrounded by five guards.

Hana begins to fight the guards, as their commander arrives and calls them off. Hana was able to falsify credentials as an Israeli engineer who, at China's invitation, was already scheduled to join the flight crew. She takes her station in the spacecraft, and the flight commences. Once in orbit, Hana begins a scheduled spacewalk, taking the opportunity to find the tracking satellite. She attempts to issue a self-destruct command to the satellite, only to be infected by a computer virus. Dying, Hana launches herself to the satellite, manually disabling its systems. She rides the satellite into the atmosphere, where her body is incinerated on reentry. Hana survives, however, as a consciousness existing in computers. She is last seen chatting online with Micah Sanders. In later Graphic Novels, Hana and Richard Drucker plan the downfall of the Company, and both appear to be dead due to the deletion of the Company mainframe in The End of Hana and Drucker.

Online Activity

Hana also runs her own "Underground" web page which you can secretly link to through the Primatech Paper website. The user name and password was given in her initial web comic.