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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Discussions:

No consensus, 14 June 2023, to Brantford Bulldogs, see discussion.
Not moved, 11 October 2024, to Brantford Bulldogs, see discussion.

Article naming

Following this season, I recommend this article to be renamed "Hamilton Bulldogs" and the current Hamilton Bulldogs article to be renamed "Hamilton Bulldogs (1996-2015)." Thoughts? Grande (talk) 02:27, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree on the first part...on the second part, I think the current one should be renamed "Hamilton Bulldogs (AHL)." Tom Danson (talk) 02:30, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know how to make this the main Wikipedia page instead of the AHL one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.146.44.21 (talk • contribs)

Requested move 10 February 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. —usernamekiran (talk) 05:30, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hamilton Bulldogs → Brantford Bulldogs – They are moving to Brantford and renaming the team to the Brantford Bulldogs [1] Ajshul ^<talk> 01:44, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: The team is still named Hamilton Bulldogs for this season, and the new name does not yet pass WP:GNG. Flibirigit (talk) 02:14, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Re-evaluate later. The exact date of the relocation is unknown, but they're still in Hamilton for the time being. O.N.R. ^(talk) 15:41, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Too soon. It's coming, but I can't endorse this move just yet. 162 etc. (talk) 16:43, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose until the Hamilton Bulldogs season is over for obvious reasons. The regular season ends at the end of March and the playoffs conclude in early June. BLAIXX 19:20, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 14 June 2023

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Although the opposers outnumber the support here, a split was suggested, and it was noted that the proposed title was only to be temporary, indicating that this discussion may need revisiting in the future, depending on what sources become available (per WP:NAMECHANGES) or if anybody wants to discuss alternative options such as splitting. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 14:30, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hamilton Bulldogs → Brantford Bulldogs – Team has renamed all social media platforms at this point and have completed their season in Hamilton. Hcoder3104 (💬) 03:05, 14 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 05:52, 21 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 06:47, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Just because a team renames its social media, Wikipedia does not automatically follow. I am not convinced at this time that Brantford Bulldogs meet WP:GNG. Unfortunately, nobody has taken the time to improve the article with multiple independent sources talking about the team's tenure in Brantford. Furthermore, if and when both Hamilton Bulldogs and Brantford Bulldogs meet GNG, then both get their own article. Precedence for this is seen at Brampton Battalion and North Bay Battalion. If GNG is questionable, then precedence is to merge, as seen at Hamilton Fincups. In the meantime, please stop moving the article without discussion as it is disruptive. Flibirigit (talk) 11:12, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Split. As noted above, when an OHL franchise moves, the precedent is to create a new article (Mississauga IceDogs/Niagara IceDogs, Brampton Battalion/North Bay Battalion), etc. This one is unusual since it is a temporary relocation [2], but all official team accounts, the OHL, and reliable secondary sources are using the name "Brampton Bulldogs" for the 2023-24 season. 162 etc. (talk) 16:09, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support move. Because this is a temporary relocation, there's no reason to split; the closest equivalent I can think of is basketball's New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets, which are covered on the New Orleans Pelicans page rather than as a separate incarnation of the franchise. O.N.R. ^(talk) 01:28, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
NOTE: User:Subaryan has moved the page without participating in this discussion. Flibirigit (talk) 17:16, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
NOTE: User:Roswell2000 also moved the page without participating in this discussion. Flibirigit (talk) 00:19, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose move per ONR (yes, I realize I'm basing my !oppose on a !support) – if this is temporary, and they'll be coming back to Hamilton, why are we changing the title for the three year span, only for the name to change back and us to have to change back with it? (Also, move-protection might be in order here.) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 22:48, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose move at this stage. A split is a definite possibility. Come to a consensus on the possible split before further complicating things by further moves (whether in or out of process). Andrewa (talk) 11:26, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 11 October 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 18:13, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hamilton Bulldogs → Brantford Bulldogs – It is pretty obvious that the Bulldogs relocated to Brantford, Ontario. ShallowC (talk) 17:30, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose': It also very obvious that the relocation is temporary as per the multiple previous discussions on this page. Flibirigit (talk) 17:41, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Either the article is split, which is what is normally done when an OHL team moves, or we continue to consider this as a temporary change in venue. See previous discussion. 162 etc. (talk) 17:47, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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