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Merge

Hi, Yesterday U990467 had moved most of the content from this article to here (Habits (Tove Lo song)),
Do we really need 2 articles on one song especially when it's made by the same artist ?,
I've reverted everything back for now as thought it was best there should be some sort of discussion,
I'm pinging everyone on this talkpage (Attention collaborators (U990467—Werldwayd—In ictu oculi—Chasewc91—Amakuru—Paparazzzi))
Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 14:05, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

COMMENTS:

The article of this page should be "Habits (Stay High)" instead of "Habits (Tove Lo song)" since the former is currently the official one and is widely used in many record charts.
These two songs should be separated since they are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT singles. First, "Habits (Hippie Sabotage remix)" has been renamed as "Stay High" and became another single. Second, the lyrics of these two songs are also very different according to MetroLyrics. You can take a look: Habits Lyrics and Stay High Lyrics. Third, per WP:SIZESPLIT and WP:NSONG. The article of the remix is long enough and the remix single is notable enough to have its own page. --U990467 (talk) 17:18, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Paparazzzi

I think the article should be titled "Habits (Stay High)", not just "Habits". "Habits" was the title of the first single release. The second one was "Habits (Stay High)", and it is mainly known with that title.
In my opinion, despite being two different singles, both "Habits (Stay High)" and the remix should be covered in one single article, since they are the same song.
The lyrics are "different" because, well, one of them is a remix, Hippie Sabotage only used the bridge and the chorus of the original track and made the beat slower. --Paparazzzi (talk) 04:02, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

obviously any move to a (stay high) version should be run through a proper RM since it was expressly rejected twice above. I also don't see much justification for a split since they're one song — Amakuru (talk) 06:31, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 August 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. wbm1058 (talk) 00:00, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Habits (Tove Lo song) → Habits (Stay High) –

WP:NATURAL: Using an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title.
First, this single has been released twice: the first time, as "Habits", and the second one, as "Habits (Stay High)". As "Habits", the song failed to chart anywhere, while as "Habits (Stay High)" was a commercial success, which could indicate that the second title is better known.
The track is titled "Habits (Stay High)" in Truth Serum's and Queen of the Clouds' booklets.
The music video on YouTube is titled "Habits (Stay High)". Paparazzzi (talk) 20:32, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Per WP:COMMONNAME. "Habits (Stay High)" is used overwhelmingly more often in RS than the page's current name. Meatsgains (talk) 02:05, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support: The article of this page should be "Habits (Stay High)" instead of "Habits (Tove Lo song)" since the former is currently the official one and is widely used in many record charts. --U990467 (talk) 06:15, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - The article is predominantly about "Habits (Stay High)" Spiderone 10:11, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom and all of the above - Clearly COMMONNAME. –Davey2010^Talk 13:17, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support Clear common name and avoids disambiguation. Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 03:36, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Millennial whoops

Regarding this edit. I consider basic counting falls under "Basic arithmetic" in Wikipedia:No_original_research#Routine_calculations. I count 18 Millennial whoops. Does anyone contest that number? --Bensin (talk) 19:46, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

18 four-note Millennial whoops, that is. --Bensin (talk) 19:55, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

An edit comment requested an explanation of the calculation. Here it is: The song consists of 3 choruses. Each chorus consists of three "A-sections" (the chorus is has an AABA-structure). Each A-section contains two Millennial whoops. This results in 3 x 3 x 2 = 18 Millennial whoops. Or one can listen to the song from start to end and calculate them one by one. --Bensin (talk) 22:50, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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This is an example of one of the proper quotes in the page it uses correct quotation after the period."I can't lie. What I'm singing about is my life. It's the truth. I've had moments where [drug-taking] has been a bigger part than it should be. It's hard to admit to, and I could filter it or find another metaphor for it – but it doesn't feel right to me." These quotes on the other hand are bad because the punctuation is after the quotation marks. 1)"You're gone and I gotta stay high / All the time, to keep you off my mind". 2) "was really coming from the heart". 3) "the dark undertone is key for the whole video". When it should be 1)"You're gone and I gotta stay high / All the time, to keep you off my mind." 2) "was really coming from the heart." 3) "the dark undertone is key for the whole video." Showcrasher (talk) 23:54, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: On Wikipedia, logical quotation is used. Punctuation is included in quotation marks only if it is in the quoted material. Gulumeemee (talk) 02:41, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Release formats in Release history section

I'm not sure how 'Mainstream Radio', 'Adult album alternative', etc. constitute release formats. Surely this column should have things like 'Digital download', 'CD', etc.? --Michig (talk) 18:17, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It means that it was released as a single on those radio formats. --Paparazzzi (talk) 01:32, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]