Talk:HMS Jamaica (44)

Neutrality

Two sentences should be edited: "... Communist invasion..." should be changed to "North Korean advance"; likewise "the Communist guns were silenced" should be phrased differently to preserve neutrality. Any objections? 91.186.73.7 11:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Seconded. Toby Douglass 12:03, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Ridiculous, there is nothing that violates neutrality with those statements. A communist invasion is in fact what happened and "silencing enemy guns" is a phrase that has been used in naval warfare for centuries.--$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 02:58, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Gray Ghost

I don't know if this is a mistake but the USS Rochester (CA-124) (which operated closely with the Jamaica during the Korean war) is known as the "Gray Ghost of the Korean Coast". If you type that phrase into google or something, web pages calling the Rochester by that name will show up. Thought it should be mentioned, this is an encyclopedia afterall.--$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 03:02, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Copyvio

This article copied extensive amounts of text from http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/4033.html without attribution. It has been deleted, but the article will be a bit incoherent until I get a chance to rewrite it.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Corrections

Good article. OK for B-class. In intro, added "The light cruiser" to sentence 2 to make it clear what type of cruiser it was. Fixed one intro sentence that made it sound like the NK army was cooperating with the USN. You may want to review these. Added a missing word in Further convoys section. Djmaschek (talk) 03:20, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Thurgate (talk) 00:20, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   prose: (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments

1. was named after the island of Jamaica. Suggest - She was named after the island of Jamaica.

• Done.

2. as they flew off airstrikes. Suggest - as they launched airstrikes

• Already changed

3. Late in the year she had an extensive refit. Suggest - In late 1944 she had an extensive refit

• Reworded.

4. She rejoined Home Fleet. Suggest - She rejoined the Home Fleet,

• Done.

5. resultant. Suggest - resulting

• Good idea.

5. and engaged by the covering force. Suggest - and were engaged by the covering force

• Done

6. barring the Scharnhorst’s path of retreat. Suggest - blocking the Scharnhorst’s path of retreat.

• Barring's perfectly appropriate here.

7. and opened fire a half-hour later. Not very clear as to who opened fire. Suggest you clarify it.

• Done.

8. They battered the German ship mercilessly. Not the most encyclopedic language I've seen used :) Suggest - you re-word it a tad.

• Done.

9. served as part of covering forces for Convoys. Suggest - served as part of the covering forces for Convoys

• Good catch

10. island of Wolmi-do defending Inchon before the main landing. Not very clear, could do with re-wording it.

• Doen.

11. Suggest making the- Jamaica was sent to refit in Singapore in October and then sailed for home after it was completed- Paragraph a separate sub-section.

• Already done. Thanks for the review.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:47, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow you to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns. Thurgate (talk) 00:20, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Nice work Strum. Passed. Thurgate (talk) 17:58, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The Crown Colony class were not strictly speaking 'light' cruisers, and neither were they 'heavy' cruisers. That distinction applies only to 'Treaty' cruisers at the time the respective treaty was in force. As the various Naval treaties had lapsed by the time Jamaica was commissioned she should be referred to as either 'cruiser' or for the sake of clarity '6 inch-gunned cruiser'.~~Loatesy~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.167.101.131 (talk) 14:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC)The Crown Colony class were not 'light' cruisers, and neither were they 'heavy' cruisers. That distinction applies only to 'Treaty' cruisers. As the various Naval treaties had lapsed by the time Jamaica was launched she should be referred to as either 'cruiser' or for the sake of clarity '6 inch-gunned cruiser'.

Non-free image problem

How can File:HMS Jamaica (Crown Colony-class cruiser).jpg be justified as a non-free use image here, let alone at the class article, when File:HMS Jamaica anchored.jpg in the infobox is free? Bencherlite^Talk 19:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Deleted.Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Missing Turret

I was reading "The World War II Encyclopedia" and came across a drawing of HMS Jamaica. The Specs associated with the drawing said she had 12 6-inch guns, but the drawing showed only 9. Thinking there had been some mistake I called up Wikipedia to determine if the drawing was mislabeled or the specifications were in error. The photograph in this (Wikipedia) article matched the drawing, but the armament specifications mentions 4x3 6-inch guns. It was not until I looked in the Crown Colony class article that mentions the X turret was removed from Jamaica. I feel the HMS Jamaica article: A. Should mention this change B. Should have a second set of dated armament specifications reflecting the change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.59.158.128 (talk) 14:08, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

It's mentioned in the Further convoys and the raids on the Tirpitz section.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:06, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Eric Hitchens quotation

From my reading of Hitch-22, the quotation attributed to Eric Hitchens, "Sending a Nazi convoy raider to the bottom is a better day's work than any I have ever done", was something written by his son Christopher in response to what his Father had done, not something Eric Hitchens had said. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.157.175.215 (talk) 19:53, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

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