Talk:Gyrojet

Star Frontiers

Also, gyrojets figured into the Star Frontiers RPG pretty heavily IIRC. Additionally, while gunpowder would need oxygen to burn, wouldn't gyrojets be able to fire in a vacuum?

Gunpowder doesn't need oxygen to burn. --81.227.115.67 18:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gunpowder (traditional black powder or modern smokeless) does need oxygen but it contains its own oxygen in a nitro- or -nitrate compound; therefore, conventional firearms will fire in a vacuum (just as sea mines, torpedoes and depth charges explode underwater).

The use of "power" in the following sentence is ambiguous and possibly incorrect.

After about 75 yards (70 m) the motor would burn out, at which point the pistol-sized round had about 50% more power than the common Colt .45.

It is possible the author meant energy, a physical quantity which is surely known for this caliber and should be specified with appropriate units for a range of 75 yards. It is also possible the author meant stopping power. If so, this should be specified more clearly. No other meaning of power is correct or particularly meaningful in the discussion of firearms.

--Kerrmudgeon 16:42, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"energy" is what the reference says. Pol098 (talk) 00:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As one of the original employees of the company, and still active in what is left of the original company under its present ownership,I would like for the original authors. to correct the spelling of the name MBAssociates. It is all one word, not MB Associates. The Gyrojet was never much of a commercial success because of cost of the ammunition. However it did work well underwater and also in the vacuum of space. There were other variants of the rocket motor technology that were used in space. 72.132.159.6 (talk) 16:28, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you can give us a reliable source for a change in the article, we can make the change. Naturally information supplied from an unknown Internet Protocol address cannot be the basis of a Wikipedia article. - Fartherred (talk) 07:25, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have found that our references support MBAssociates, for instance SVENSKA VAPENSAMLARFORENINGEN and The "DeathWind" Project. - Fartherred (talk) 04:02, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tests

Some tests are quoted here: [1]. Muzzle velocity at 1 ft was stated at 105ft/sec, and acceleration about 70 fp/s per foot, implying a muzzle velocity of about 35 fps. But it is misleading to quote muzzle velocity in the summary, as it simply misleads people used to conventional firearms. The topic is discussed in the text. Pol098 (talk) 00:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The figures quoted for the distance at which fuel was exhausted and just about everything else varies between the different references. The 2003 tests seem to have been reasonably well conducted. The sonic boom on about half the shots is a very good indicator of maximum speed (and variability between rounds). Pol098 (talk) 00:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Russian pistol with caseless ammunition

An addition was made to the See also list. The Gerasimenko VAG-73 is a Russian pistol that can fire caseless bullets. It is not a small arms rocket launcher. It is not a rocket pistol. It does not belong in this article. Readers interested in other firearms articles can follow the specialized firearms category to the Firearms by type category and so on. I will revert the addition of the VAG-73. --Fartherred (talk) 03:58, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If User:Ose/fio has some rational for replacing the Gerasimenko VAG-73 in the See also list after it has been removed once, he can state it here. Fartherred (talk) 22:33, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Gyrojet also appeared in a science fiction short story

The Gyrojet was also featured in a science fiction short story: Larry Niven's "The Meddler," which is available in the anthology Convergent Series. sprocketeer (talk) 16:06, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Failure of machine gun variant of Gyrojet

The recent edit by Hcompton16 indicates that a machine gun variant of Gyrojet would not work because of a lack of recoil. This seems strange because although there are recoil operated machine guns, there are also gas operated machine guns. Firing a Gyrojet round certainly produces gas. I will mark this edit as [[Citation needed]] then remove it later if no one adequately defends it. Fartherred (talk) 22:14, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gyrojet not caseless firearm

The Caseless Firearms template does not belong on the Gyrojet article because it is a rocket launcher. It no more qualifies as a caseless firearm than a bazooka does. Fartherred (talk) 23:44, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Machine gun variant is not Gyrojet

The citation for the machine gun variant refers to a patent by Kenneth McGowan (spelling?) who has nothing to do with MBAssociates or Gyrojet and never produced a working model of the patented weapon. It is not a variant of the Gyrojet and does not belong in the article. - Fartherred (talk) 17:43, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Page does not mention why gyrojets were discontinued

While I assume the weapons fell out of use for being expensive and impractical, the page does not state that outright, and I'm having trouble finding any sources that would explain it in detail. Can someone who knows more about this add something along those lines? 67.116.255.135 (talk) 20:09, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Design section

This section contain definitions which are accurate only in theory. Very few firearms reach maximum velocity while still in the barrel. This is more of an ideal than a reality. A minor nitpick perhaps, but relevant.Ernest C. Ruger (talk) 12:29, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"DeathWind Project Reliability

I have some doubts about the reliability of one of the sources of this article that seems to be everywhere. The DeathWind project seems to be a self-published source, making several dubious claims, and seems to be an opinionated rather than fact-based publication. I can't find any sign that the guy doing it has any qualifications that would make what he says reliable, either. Sorry if this isn't the right place to bring this up. 63.153.82.49 (talk) 17:16, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Add “popular culture” section?

The pistol and carbine have been both featured in Phantom Forces; a game on Roblox. However, readers can just go onto the Phantom Forces Wikia to read about the firearm Edskiash (talk) 00:19, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]