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I know we already had an edit war about this, but "Standing at the BIEN Congress in 2012" kind of makes it sound like it means "[Here he is] standing at the BIEN Congress in 2012", rather than the intended "[Guy] Standing at the BIEN Congress in 2012". I think we should change the caption to "Guy Standing at the BIEN Congress in 2012", to clarify. --ISometimesEatBananas (talk) 22:23, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it would be good to change the photo of Guy Standing to one where he is actually standing up. Primarily to erase any possible confusion (which ISometimesEatBananas originally discussed), and also to dissuade possible memers as well.
Replacing the photo has been discussed before, but the problem is finding a better photo. Having a newer photo, if one is found that is suitable for use, is a good idea. Wilh3lmTalk13:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Or it could say “him (Guy standing is implied but not written) sitting at…” in the caption, it removes the issue of confusion which is present with “Standing at…” which could be easily confused for “(person)Standing(possibly capitalised only because it’s the first word) at…” and wouldn’t have the issues of “Guy Standing sitting at…” or “Standing sitting at…”
It would need to be released under a free license. And anyway I oppose making any changes to the photo. The right thing to do is to not care at all about this memery and use exactly the same image, with exactly the same caption, as we would for any other person. * Pppery *it has begun...23:04, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I feel like the caption “Standing at the BIEN Congress in 2012” should be replaced with “him sitting at the BIEN Congress in 2012” as it mitigates may of the issues, if there are any reliable source of the previous hilarity the article could have a section on the name’s comedy. Legendarycool (talk) 23:23, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It took years of arguing on this talk page just to get the uncropped photo back. I am opposed to anything that might jeopardize the consensus finally established. We have a good photo with a neutral and informative caption, which also shows Standing's continual involvement with the BIEN Conference more than two decades after its founding. If it isn't broken, don't fix it! Editorial time would be better spent expanding and improving the article rather than just trying to force the meme. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:34, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand what you are say, but confusion is created with the use of Standing as a name while he is sitting wouldn’t “him sitting at the BIEN Congress in 2012” avoid the issue of both the meme and the unclear description in the caption? Wouldn’t the continued use of his name in the caption be considered an attempt at comedy too?
I don't think "him standing" is grammatical in that use. And on the topic of images, there's a second image in the article that depicts him standing, why can't we make that the thumbnail and remove the current thumbnail image all together? ...in fact, there's one more image of him standing in Wikimedia Commons, we could use that as well. But it doesn't look very good as a thumbnail. Meanwhile, to Trainsandotherthings as well as Pppery, if we don't address this this is going to pop up again. Additionally, the article is protected because of this argument, which stops people from making good image-unrelated edits like I was going to do. --ISometimesEatBananas (talk) 22:29, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would say changing the caption to ‘him’ instead of ‘Standing’ as it could considered an attempt at a joke so using him or them instead would work better.
In my opinion, referring to Standing by a pronoun in a caption feels very awkward, and contradicts the usual style for naming people in the captions, which is by surname. I haven't been able to find any info in MOS about this but the surname would easily be the preferred style if his surname was anything else. Wilh3lmTalk19:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
