Talk:Guster
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[edit]This feels like a fan page. The article is much longer than articles on bands of similar noteworthiness or popularity. How is this band innovative? How have they affected popular culture? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.248.92.43 (talk) 07:23, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
- It still reads like a fan page... stuff like the drummer "has been affectionately dubbed Thundersomething by fans".... PurpleChez (talk) 14:49, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Just a question: Is ... 65.95.247.170 09:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
guster is the man...u should really get their music —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 158.123.252.2 (talk • contribs) 03:49, 15 February 2006 (UTC).
Hey... I just added/edited a bunch on this article. I'm thinking it should be divided into sections like History, Style, etc. like other band pages. Anyone? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.225.247.244 (talk • contribs) 15:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC).
Aren't some of the band traditions mentioned on this page explained poorly? Like during Airport song, you are supposed to wait until the end of the song to throw Ping-Pong balls, just like on the CD. And i think the pixie stick thing is after Happy Frappy, not when they walk on stage. Anyone agree? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harryfronman (talk • contribs) 06:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC).
- Stuff like that should only be mentioned at all if you can find what Wikipedia considers reliable sources. Otherwise it's pointless fan cruft. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan site, and the article should reflect that. Xtifr tälk 07:41, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Album covers and copyright
[edit]I think that using the album covers in this stylistic/decorative way is pushing the boundaries of fair use. Somebody more knowledgeable than I about the law should weigh in and, if necessary, change the section. Croctotheface 08:18, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- Since they're being used to illustrate the albums, and not for any other purpose, it should meet the legal definition of fair-use (not that I'm a lawyer or anything). Whether it's proper under Wikipedia's guidelines is much debated, and no real resolution has occurred that I know of. In general, I think the use of album images in a discography is discouraged-but-allowed. You might want to check with Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums, though, since they keep up on this stuff better than I do. Xtifr tälk 10:22, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, my inclination is to remove the images. I think that because this article is about the band, not the albums, it's kind of murky ground to say that we really need six album art images in addition to two other images to illustrate the band. I'd obviously be fine with album art in articles about the albums, but that's not what we're talking about. I also think that using album art this way makes the article look more like a fan page than an encyclopedia. Not to mention that the absence of words is considerably less informative, since it doesn't mention when the albums were released, sales data or anything else. Croctotheface 19:14, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- Since the albums do have separate articles, and since this article actually says very little about the albums, I tend to agree with you. If either of those weren't true, I might try to argue. But as it is, I say go for it. Also, if you're looking for things to improve, trivia sections are usually frowned upon too. If left unchecked, they tend to accumulate heaps of unencyclopedic fancruft. This one's not as bad as some, but it's a little excessive. There's even a cleanup tag, {{toomuchtrivia}}, to use in such cases, which offers some good advice. Since this is borderline, and it seems like someone's monitoring the article, I won't bother to tag it, but it's something to keep in mind. You can always add it yourself if you like. Xtifr tälk 21:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, my inclination is to remove the images. I think that because this article is about the band, not the albums, it's kind of murky ground to say that we really need six album art images in addition to two other images to illustrate the band. I'd obviously be fine with album art in articles about the albums, but that's not what we're talking about. I also think that using album art this way makes the article look more like a fan page than an encyclopedia. Not to mention that the absence of words is considerably less informative, since it doesn't mention when the albums were released, sales data or anything else. Croctotheface 19:14, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Live albums notability
[edit]I brought up the issue at Talk:Live 6/17/04 Myrtle Beach, SC#Notability, so w/o any replies I went ahead and merged most of the live albums to the discography. I'll repeat my argument here for convenience:
- I've tagged this article as well as most of Guster's other live albums for notability. Sites like Amazon and Barnes & Noble offer all the band's main albums for sale, but none of these date/city-named live releases, leaving it in question if they meet WP:NALBUMS. That policy also states "Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article." These articles are clearly nothing more than track listings, making merges likely appropriate.
Mbinebri talk ← 14:41, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
CMU performance
[edit]Guster performed at Carnegie Mellon earlier tonight (September 7) in honor of William Dietrich's donation, in case it's wiki-worthy. --V2Blast (talk) 06:01, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
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[edit]Much of this article reads like a fan page. The closing paragraph of the "style" section is exceptionally bad in this respect. PurpleChez (talk) 14:52, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
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