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1936 accusations

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I removed the passage on von Wangenheim having denounced his colleagues as trotskyists. The source is a off-line source, and the situation in the Soviet Union at the time was hardly normal. What it isn't clear is what is meant by denonciation in this case, is it something stated in a interrogation with the NKVD or in a formalized court? Confessions like these were far from always voluntary. --Soman (talk) 11:05, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do we use only online sources at Wikipedia? I didn't know that. It's a sourced information. If you've got any info about the backgrounds you might add them, but you shouldn't delete facts just because you don't like it. HerkusMonte (talk) 11:11, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, there is no ban on offline sources at wikipedia at all. However, the article presents a rather serious accusation against von Wangenheim, I there are various things that are not clear to me from reading the wikipedia article. An quotation/excerpt from the offline source posted here at the talk page would be appreciated. --Soman (talk) 13:57, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you speak some German, this article says: Carola Neher traf es am 25. Juli, unter anderem wegen eines Berichtes Gustav von Wangenheims, in dem er sie antisowjetischer Tätigkeit verdächtigte.(~ Carola Neher was affected on July 25, among other things by a report of Wangenheim, who suspected her of antisoviet action.) Wangenheims attitude is also mentioned here,here (sorry German) and especially here at "World Socialist Web Site", unsuspicious of anti-communism I think. Maybe this is also interesting. BTW, Reinhard Müller, who wrote the book, is a historian at the Hamburger Institut für Sozialforschung, I have no doubt on his reliability. HerkusMonte (talk) 14:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]