Talk:Guru Nanak/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

i can't find anything tudor

everything I look for is not put in. please write about tudors — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.9.214.148 (talk) 20:26, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Search Tudors and click on the first link, the tudors were hundreds of years after Guru Nanak. 2A02:C7D:26DE:B300:3170:3F6C:672D:5990 (talk) 19:50, 20 May 2019 (UTC)Donald Trump2A02:C7D:26DE:B300:3170:3F6C:672D:5990 (talk) 19:50, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Respect

Kindly give respect to such a great person please change the name of article from guru nanak to guru nanak dev ji it's a request Jaskeerat Kaur (talk) 14:42, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

 Not done For article titles, Wikipedia uses the common name by which the subject is most commonly known. That does not indicate any disrespect. Apuldram (talk) 22:40, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Was he not from Khatri community, which is regarded as synonymous to kshatriya?

the religionfacts.com is not a trustworthy reference.

OK then what about in the paragraph editor typed continuously Guru Bank, change that to Guru Nanak Dev Ji and so to other name Guru Angad Dev ji.he is a God.dont depict him as person and I am very serious about it. Brs01 (talk) 08:42, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Guru Nanak Brs01 (talk) 08:43, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

This article is disrespectful. The full name is Guru Nanak Dev Ji. And that is how He is commonly known to the world. The title should be changed because it is wrong, disrespect aside. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiranreader (talk • contribs) 20:58, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Honorifics, such as Dev Ji, are routinely omitted from names through Wikipedia. —C.Fred (talk) 21:02, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Further, per guidelines at WP:WikiProject Sikhism, Guru should be omitted after the first mention of his name. —C.Fred (talk) 21:04, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

The title

The title of the page should be Guru Nanak Dev Ji. That is the common and the only name, like Jesus Christ or Pope John Paul ii. Because Pope John is incorrect, Guru Nanak is incorrect too. Just because it is wrong everywhere else doesn't mean wikipedia has to get it wrong too. Kiranreader (talk) 21:04, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

The subject's name is Nanak; the rest is a title. Popes are one of the few categories where we routinely include titles in the name, simply because it's a natural disambiguation. Gurus are another category, but we only include Guru in the name of the article, not honorifics like Dev Ji. —C.Fred (talk) 21:10, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2019

84.210.78.84 (talk) 13:53, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Guru Nanak Devji was not a Pakistani. Pakistan did not even exist the time Guru Nanak Devji was born. He was born in 1469 in then India or Hindustan as it was called at that time. Pakistan came into existence after 14th August 1947.

 Done Sam Sailor 05:14, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

POV concerns

I have tagged this article as not displaying a neutral point of view. It appears to be written from a pro-Sikh perspective only. Statements about miracles are presented unquestioningly and his teachings are presented as universally positive and correct - all sourced from Sikh authors only. These sentences should be rephrased and more scholarly sources provided. In general the article as it stands is current very hagiographic and therefore unencyclopaedic. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 16:51, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

I do wonder if any of the concerns have been looked into. The tag is 2 years old at this point... --Trans-Neptunian object (talk) 21:44, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2019

The following paragraph was added to the end of the section regarding Guru Nanak's early years, and does not seem to be a valid entry here considering this is a section talking about his childhood and youth.

"Guru Nanak palace in modern day Punjab near Lahore was partially demolished by vandals.[18] It has invited sharp reactions from Indian politicians as it is a pilgrimage site for Sikhs across the world.[19]"

Someone should probably move this to a more appropriate section or remove it all together. 2001:569:772D:EE00:D41:258D:5888:1FBE (talk) 18:05, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Removed by Rsshergill (talk) 07:37, 12 October 2019 (UTC).

Date of birth

15 April comes in in the month of Baisakh. Hence this date is wrong. Also Guru Nanak Dev's Birth was in the day of Kartik Month Pooranmasi. Hence Admin is requested to write Kartik Month Pooranmasi instead of 15 April. Please dont spread wrong information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4055:30D:346:0:0:26C8:20AD (talk) 13:23, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

I dont know what the authority of the person locking this page is or why an edit was removed.

My point is that this is a source of information for people. In the opening statement it should be clear when the birth day was (April) and why/how it is moved to November.

Day of Vasaki - birth of Khalsa - was deliberately chosen to be on the date of the birth or the founder of Sikhism - Guru Nanak.

Sikhs have their own language/scripture and character set (Gurmukhi). Why would they be referring to Hindu priests to provide annual days on which to celebrate Sikh events ? Pmelectrical (talk) 06:08, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

The sources cited in the "Early life" section clearly state that some janamsakhis place his birth in the Kartik month (November), but the actual date falls in April. utcursch | talk 14:59, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Indic script

please add guru nanak گورو نانکin urdu language as well — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.211.90.8 (talk) 17:53, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't see Urdu used in the main article on Sikhism. —C.Fred (talk) 20:17, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 September 2020

Please remove this:

"Nanak's one and only sister"

and add this:

"Nanak's only sister"

Obviously she was his one sister if she were his only sister. 2601:5C6:8081:35C0:553:E4EC:55A5:6B1C (talk) 01:15, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done Dylsss (talk) 02:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2021

Could you please changed from Guru Sahib travel far and wide in Asia, to Guru Nanak Dev Ji travels world wide, theres evidence that Guru Nanak travelled to Rome as in the Vatican gardens there is a plaque in the rememberance of Guru sahib. He had travelled world wide. So not just Asia, thank you 95.147.45.198 (talk) 01:38, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 02:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2021

Guru Nanak 117.220.78.176 (talk) 06:01, 20 August 2021 (UTC) Guru Nanak Dev Ji

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —Sirdog (talk) 06:27, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Wrong birth date

Please remove only date because there is no specific birth date of guru Nanak of English calendar. The year you wrote is right 1469. Please do not promote wrong information of any religion. Thank you 😊 2409:4055:85:5CA9:397C:E431:A0BA:E686 (talk) 08:33, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2022

The birthdate is incorrect this is an attempt to re-write Sikh history and is deliberate 2001:569:777C:AD00:AC29:FD06:E0DB:4F0A (talk) 19:48, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:16, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

It is about the birth date of Guru Nanak dev ji

I want to know why the date is put 15th April on wikipedia and then in bracket it is put oct nov kattak purnmashi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.253.202.66 (talk) 13:52, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Looks like the celebration of his birth is not on the date of his birth. Not the only person that happens with; I can think of Jesus of Nazareth and Queen Elizabeth II off the top of my head. —C.Fred (talk) 14:05, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 15 June 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not Moved (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 03:54, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

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Guru Nanak → Nanak – The Sanskrit religious title Guru is primarily used for Nanak by Sikhs, not all people commonly refer to him by using the prefix 'Guru'. Only Sikhs consider Nanak to be a 'guru', similarly Muslims consider Muhammad to be a Prophet, but we don't use 'Prophet Muhammad' here on Wikipedia, we simply have Muhammad. Christians consider Jesus to be a Christ, though we do not have Jesus Christ, we simply have Jesus. In the same manner, Sikhs consider Nanak to be Guru, but we should simply have Nanak, instead of Guru Nanak. A much more convincing argument would be WP:COMMONNAME. The Google Ngram results largely favor 'Nanak' over 'Guru Nanak'. The much-more reliable Google Scholars shows 48,800 results for Guru Nanak whereas a much larger 66,900 results for Nanak. ShabberMojtaba ((talk), 22:59, 15 June 2022 (UTC) Sockstrike ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 15:55, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose based on WP:COMMONNAME and the Google Scholars hits above. Since the search term for 'Nanak' did not exclude 'Guru Nanak', that indicates 48,800 results for "Guru Nanak" and 18,100 for "Nanak" not preceded by "Guru". —C.Fred (talk)

• Oppose based on WP:COMMONNAME. The policy cites Mahatma Gandhi as a good example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NebulaOblongata (talk • contribs) 07:12, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. As C.Fred noted, vast majority of "Nanak" results include "Guru Nanak" as well. -- Ab207 (talk) 12:27, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Google Scholar only has 7,930 results for Nanak vs 48,800 results for Guru Nanak. That's a sixfold difference. — kashmīrī ^TALK 12:32, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

  Also, most of the "Nanak" -Guru results are unrelated to this topic, so the actual difference could be many times more. -- Ab207 (talk) 13:59, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

• oppose move, rarely do you hear or Nanak, Guru Nanak is WP:COMMONNAME as shown above by many. Also similar arguments were used on Gautama Buddha a few days ago, do see that discussion as well. Sajaypal007 (talk) 15:43, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2022

I request to add the transcription of Guru Nanak's name in the native Gurmukhi (ਨਾਨਕ) and Shahmukhi (نانک) scripts of the Punjabi-language. There is currently only the transcription of his name in the Latin script. ThethPunjabi (talk) 19:29, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

It looks like the Gurmukhi is used in other gurus' articles. @ThethPunjabi: What's your source for the spelling in Gurmukhi, so we can verify it? —C.Fred (talk) 01:13, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

The spelling of Nanak's name in Gurmukhi as ਨਾਨਕ can be confirmed with the Online Sikh Library: https://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95/

This websites draws upon the Mahan Kosh and other Sikh/Punjabi dictionaries as its sources. ThethPunjabi (talk) 01:16, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done: I have added the Gurmukhi only, similar to other gurus' articles. —C.Fred (talk) 01:23, 17 August 2022 (UTC)